I have heard that Young , Cerra and Kennedy have been told to find new clubs if they have suitors

OK. So, see Yu later Owies and Carroll, hello Houston pick 11 , 31 and Ben. Someone needs to make way for Lucas-

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Wow. Vossy must really not like Kennedy.

How to lose a locker room imo.

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Crazy Vossy !!

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Honestly, i dont blame us for wanting Kennedy, Cerra and Young to find clubs.

They are not consistent enough. We cant keep on going like this as a club.

Kennedy doesnt stay in a game long enough. Cerra is always injured and hardly noticeable apart from sometimes. And Young, we cant trust him.

We need to be ruthless. We have to. Just as long as the replacements are better of course and durable.

Im nervous for sure. But i cant say i would be upset for losing any of those players.

We need to let go of us liking a player. Are they good enough, strong enough, and durable enough. Those 3 - I would say no.

Completely disagree on Kennedy. Suspect he suffers from the ‘too slow’ label. But he’s a reliable footballer that has played many, many roles for us. Would nearly be our best overhead mark.

There’d be 15 players or more I cut loose before Kennedy.

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Cerra is a valuable player when fit and in form as he showed for much of last year. I'd like us to try and resolve his hamstring problems instead if trading him for a low return.

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OMG, what is this obsession with Houston? Does this Club ever learn?

Is Houston going to be the difference between us winning a Flag and not making the finals?

He is a very good Player but he is not Elite... he does have his flaws. Our club already has similar players playing his roll. Saad, Newman & Boyd all play Houston's role, so what is the point?

I am not against the idea of Getting Houston to the club, but not at the expense of 1st round picks and more picks! We need picks to Grow kids. I am so fed up with recruiting ready made players and giving them a Mega Million Deal that is doomed to fail at the expense of draft Picks.

Owies is the heart & Soul of our Club. No other player celebrates a Goal the way he does- with heart & Passion.

He is also our best small forward by far. He is an elite kick for goal and was very consistent the last few years.

How on earth does the club treat him this way? He Deserves better!

Cerra was on his way to become an Elite midfielder when he was at Freo... He has so much potential but since coming across to Carlton, Injuries has limited his input. I believe he deserves another chance to prove what he is capable of.

Cerra was 4th in our B&F last season behind Weiters, Newman and Charlie.

When we stunk it up for 10 weeks, he played well.

I am massively concerned about his hamstrings but I think it's down to terrible management on his first return that set him back all season.

Kennedy's a heart and soul player but clearly low on Voss's list. There's a big gap between his best and worst.

Young?

Yeah, just fills me with dread whenever he goes near it.

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Dual All Australian, rated elite for tackles, top 20 in the AFL for kicks per game, rebound 50's per game, metres gained per game, magnificent user of the ball. And he's not elite?
Yes we have players who play a similar role but Lewis Young plays a similar role to Jacob Weitering. It doesn't mean he's anywhere near as good.

I'm not saying we should get Houston but let's not undersell his abilities.

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Agree. Let's not have a fire sale because the S&C department didn't do their job effectively.

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if by washing dishes, mick, you mean furiously beating myself. then yes, yes i will.

lol. yes, houston will be the difference, and yes in capital letters, he is elite.

houston isn't as fast as saad, but he'd be the next fastest on our list immediately. he's dual footed and a better kick than not just anyone on our list, but anyone in the afl.

from what i gather .... cfc is going to try and trade a future 1st to richmond, to get one of their 1sts, and we trade for houston, while keeping our #11 pick. as Doc said, we draft joe berry with that and we're up an away. Joe berry reminds me of connor rozee. he'll play forward for a season or two and then be thrown in the middle, imo.


interesting if true about kennedy and cerra. that means the brains in the front office must be confident they can bring in a mid this summer??

imagine an offseason of:

Houston
an A-grade mid
Joe berry
the campo twins.


i'd take all of that and love our chances next year.

Especially while Cerra is at his lowest value

i agree with ya! let's cut the emotional attachment to players, and do whatever it takes to make the club better.

going into this offseason, i felt like after a pretty vanilla offseason last year, we needed to turn over the list and freshen it. make a big move or two, and be prepared to let go of some favourites. other than tdk, weiters & charlie and cripps, i would imagine everyone has a price on our list. and make no mistake ... that spine is good enough to win a flag.

if cerra and kennedy depart, and that makes way for an A-grade mid to come in. let's do it. hell, let's do it twice.

Couldn’t disagree more with Braithy.
The obsession with cutting the list deep, does not sit well with me.
Some need to be careful what they wish for. We aren’t rebuilding.

why is that surrey? do you believe this list can win a flag? or are you (emotionally) invested into this current mob?

for me ... we reloaded the same list last season and went again hoping to go one better than a prleim, and we digressed and went backwards. we weren't even in the hunt, and only beat norf and eagles since june. JUNE! and we were wiped off the park by the lions in an elim. something has to give here, and praying for good health or better health isn't much of a plan, imo. bcos what if this list even when healthy isn't up to it?

fwiw, i don't think the list is.

some list rejuvenation is necessary to progress. it tells the current mob, not to get complacent, and to stay at your maximum. it also gives us a few fresh looks and new ways of playing that other teams and coaches will have to counter.

hawks - very successful this season, and they had 8 new arrivals from other clubs. pies won their flag and had 6 new guys arrive in the offseason. list rejuvenation is a must to progress.


imo, this list wasn't winning a flag. even when fit, there's flaws. too one dimensional and 1-paced thru the middle. too charlie and harry- centric in attack where we just bomb it long and cross our fingers.

and team defense was deplorable. a league worst in many areas. to overcome that for 2025, we need more foot speed to pursue and disrupt the other team. we need another key back if they decide young isn't up to task, and we need some dynamism and creativity in the forwardline among the smalls.

but more than all of that, there's two areas we actually suck at. our tackling & the way we move the ball is our absolute achilles. league worst from D50 to F50 ball movement and scoring.

houston immediately improves both. leads port in tackle success % and tackles made and intercepts. along with his league best kicking disposal.

i've said it before, if kennedy was as mobile as walsh, he'd be an all australian. but he isn't, he's lumbering. cerra can be good, and he can disappear in a game and he can also be injured.

if we can improve the list, and upgrade some positions to make us more competitive, why would we oppose that?