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Effes · **Posted:** Sun Jul 06, 2014 1:58 pm

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-07-06/b ... -president

LoGiudice also said he expected the Blues would make "a big improvement" next season, the last in coach Mick Malthouse three-year contract.

bluegirl72 · **Joined:** Sat May 23, 2009 8:30 pm **Posts:** 23911

camelboy wrote:

Let's hope it doesn't go a little something like this…

He may find himself presiding over a board of hacks
And he may find himself in a strange bizarro world
And he may find himself behind the wheel of an out of control automobile
And he may find himself in a terrible house, facing a terrible strife
And he may ask himself
Well...How did I get here?

Letting the votes go by
Let the pokies hold him down
Letting the votes go by
Driving the club into the ground
Into the blue again
After the money's gone
Once in a lifetime
Driving the club into the ground

noice camelby..noice!

AGRO · **Posted:** Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:30 pm

Effes wrote:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-07-06/blues-schedule-kills-attendances-says-new-president

LoGiudice also said he expected the Blues would make "a big improvement" next season, the last in coach Mick Malthouse three-year contract.

It always helps coming off such a low base.

:roll:

pew1 · **Joined:** Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:58 pm **Posts:** 539

Dont worry where we play Get our recruiting fixed up and the crowds will follow.

tap in 79 · **Joined:** Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:58 am **Posts:** 2129

DocSherrin wrote:

On a serious note (sorry) - I'm going to meet with Mark and a couple of the CFC executive post-season. Anyone who wants to have a serious discussion about the future of the club and to convey their own thoughts as a member prior to the AGM is welcome to join me. The club is yours. Complaining on an internet forum may help your blood pressure, but essentially it is not a medium through which you are heard.

Doc, can you point out to LoGiudice that Carlton should NOT be funding any development of any other club when

1) Carlton is one of the few clubs not to make the top 4 in the last decade
2) Carlton is consistently made the guinea pig in fixturing "experiments" for tv stations. A fairer run with fixturing and spacing between matches is required.

How does the AFL justify Carlton playing 3 Sunday night matches whilst Collingwood plays 1, Adelaide plays none, Brisbane plays none, Fremantle, Geelong, Hawthorn etc play none.

How is the AFL going to repay Carlton for playing so many Sunday night matches and the lost revenue in membership and gate takings? Do they give Carlton $300,000 to pay for the "equalisation" measures Carlton is forced to pay to North etc to help their climb up the ladder.

Can the AFL look at playing TAC or Under 18 Championship games at Princes Park instead of at Docklands and that way send a bit of money Carlton's way?

tap in 79 · **Joined:** Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:58 am **Posts:** 2129

LoGiudice should be aware of all the kick backs various other clubs get. eg North Melbourne

Does anyone have the figures on how much the AFL put into redeveloping Arden Street in comparison to Princes Park?

This article indicates that the AFL would have probably put in to the vicinity of 5-7 million into Arden Street.
How much did they put into Princes Park?

http://www.theage.com.au/national/kanga ... -duv0.html

Also, this financial statement indicates that North Melbourne was given "funding assistance" of $3 million in 2012 and also in 2013 from the AFL.

Then on top of that the AFL is helping to fund North's push into Tasmania. Is this a case of the AFL creating another Hawthorn type scenario where various benefits are given to a club outside what other clubs are given? Does this help to push North up the ladder above teams like Carlton and Richmond, which don't get all these sweetners?

It will be interesting seeing the AFL sponsored North playing the Carlton AFL not-sponsored, one-hand tied behind their backs Carlton in a fortnight's time. Should the AFL allow North to play with 19 players on the ground or is their financial assistance enough to help them up the ladder?

http://www.nmfc.com.au/staticfile/AFL%2 ... nal%29.pdf

tap in 79 · **Joined:** Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:58 am **Posts:** 2129

LoGiudice should insist that it is not a priority that all clubs have to pay 100% of the salary cap and to get other clubs (such as Carlton) to foot the wages bill of other clubs is not how a salary cap should be employed.

As you can see in the NFL, the Minnesota Vikings have the 2nd highest payroll but haven't won a superbowl.

New England Patriots are mid-table on the wages bill yet have won recent superbowls...

do you see the NFL stepping in to make sure the Oakland Raiders get money from the Vikings so they pay more in the cap?
no you don't.

There is just too much fiddling with stuff in the AFL, and it is often at the expense of Carlton. I could handle some of the AFL intervention until I heard about their plans to take money from Carlton's own resources and give it to North and Melbourne....

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/intera ... er-broncos

ThePsychologist · **Joined:** Sun May 03, 2009 9:52 am **Posts:** 7893

On 3aw tonight.

Meets with MM every week.
Spoke about "incident"
Full process for CEO going on
Short Listed to 3 atm

Need to bolster and improve recruiting and development
Good kids coming through
List needs work

MM will pick assistants
Ling high on list

MM position reviewed next year
He is the right person to take us forward

Preference for more games at MCG than Etihad
Currently negotiating with AFL

Really didn't say anything we didn't know.

Rexy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:46 am **Posts:** 28227

ThePsychologist wrote:

On 3aw tonight.

Meets with MM every week.
Spoke about "incident"
Full process for CEO going on
Short Listed to 3 atm

Need to bolster and improve recruiting and development
Good kids coming through
List needs work

MM will pick assistants
Ling high on list

MM position reviewed next year
He is the right person to take us forward

Preference for more games at MCG than Etihad
Currently negotiating with AFL

Really didn't say anything we didn't know.

says he prefers to keep business behind closed doors

does that mean members will only get chook food ?

Taff · **Posted:** Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:23 pm

ThePsychologist wrote:

On 3aw tonight.

Meets with MM every week.
Spoke about "incident"
Full process for CEO going on
Short Listed to 3 atm

Need to bolster and improve recruiting and development
Good kids coming through
List needs work

MM will pick assistants
Ling high on list

MM position reviewed next year
He is the right person to take us forward

Preference for more games at MCG than Etihad
Currently negotiating with AFL

Really didn't say anything we didn't know.

At least he was thoughtful and articulate. Will be interesting to see how the next 12 months pans out.

Hornet · **Joined:** Sat May 21, 2005 5:15 pm **Posts:** 7275

I hate Monga

ThePsychologist · **Joined:** Sun May 03, 2009 9:52 am **Posts:** 7893

Hornet wrote:

I hate Monga

I'm not a fan either but he's right when he says our list is the worst in the afl in terms of young talent coming through. Hard to argue that.

london blue · **Joined:** Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:08 pm **Posts:** 3248

ThePsychologist wrote:

Hornet wrote:

I hate Monga

I'm not a fan either but he's right when he says our list is the worst in the afl in terms of young talent coming through. Hard to argue that.

Monga definitely has his hang ups.....starts with himself......needs to grow up

Unfortunately, he is right about our list

camel · **Posted:** Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:22 pm

Thanks for the update on MLG interview. :beer:

tap in 79 · **Joined:** Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:58 am **Posts:** 2129

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/gillon ... 7014543009

More on "equalisation". This is what LoGuidice should be addressing. Forget all the other stuff. Why is Carlton so regularly reamed by the AFL in comparison to other clubs?

If Carlton is forced to hand over anything for "equalisation" then it is the straw that broke the camel's back for me. Equalisation is so selective. one year they want to push North up the ladder so they try and give them a Tasmanian deal like the Hawthorn one, next year they decide Brisbane is their project team etc etc.

Carlton is never their project team that they try and push up the ladder or assist by giving a good draw to. How about a contra-Tasmanian type deal for Carlton with lots of money on the side? or a draw next year that features Carlton playing two games each against the bottom 6 clubs. Or a draw that doesn't feature playing at midnight on Wednesday nights or Monday or Sunday nights.

Stuff playing Essendon* twice, I would prefer to have a chance at winning more games than playing finals teams twice. How about eradicating Carlton's debt?

Why does Hawthorn only pay $500,000 towards equalisation despite massive profits, a York Park deal that the AFL set up for them that gives them so many benefits that other clubs don't get access to, what about Collingwood? Don't they have 80,000 members or something? Why don't they contribute more to equalisation?

Which club is going to be equalised next year? St Kilda, Melbourne or Brisbane? My tip is Brisbane. They've just won 3 flags, but need some money from Carlton.

Clayman · **Joined:** Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:02 am **Posts:** 1770

tap in 79 wrote:

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/gillon-mclachlan-informs-afl-clubs-of-standing-in-new-equalisation-strategy/story-fnelctok-1227014543009

More on "equalisation". This is what LoGuidice should be addressing. Forget all the other stuff. Why is Carlton so regularly reamed by the AFL in comparison to other clubs?

If Carlton is forced to hand over anything for "equalisation" then it is the straw that broke the camel's back for me. Equalisation is so selective. one year they want to push North up the ladder so they try and give them a Tasmanian deal like the Hawthorn one, next year they decide Brisbane is their project team etc etc.

Carlton is never their project team that they try and push up the ladder or assist by giving a good draw to. How about a contra-Tasmanian type deal for Carlton with lots of money on the side? or a draw next year that features Carlton playing two games each against the bottom 6 clubs. Or a draw that doesn't feature playing at midnight on Wednesday nights or Monday or Sunday nights.

Stuff playing Essendon** twice, I would prefer to have a chance at winning more games than playing finals teams twice. How about eradicating Carlton's debt?

Why does Hawthorn only pay $500,000 towards equalisation despite massive profits, a York Park deal that the AFL set up for them that gives them so many benefits that other clubs don't get access to, what about Collingwood? Don't they have 80,000 members or something? Why don't they contribute more to equalisation?

Which club is going to be equalised next year? St Kilda, Melbourne or Brisbane? My tip is Brisbane. They've just won 3 flags, but need some money from Carlton.

Would we rather give North the Pratts and Mathiesons and instead we go to the AFL each year on our hands and knees begging? The AFL gave us sponsors and an interest free loan when we needed it after they nearly killed us. I am sure they would give us the same if we needed it again.

Kaptain Kouta · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:41 pm **Posts:** 63509

tap in 79 wrote:

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/gillon-mclachlan-informs-afl-clubs-of-standing-in-new-equalisation-strategy/story-fnelctok-1227014543009

More on "equalisation". This is what LoGuidice should be addressing. Forget all the other stuff. Why is Carlton so regularly reamed by the AFL in comparison to other clubs?

If Carlton is forced to hand over anything for "equalisation" then it is the straw that broke the camel's back for me. Equalisation is so selective. one year they want to push North up the ladder so they try and give them a Tasmanian deal like the Hawthorn one, next year they decide Brisbane is their project team etc etc.

Carlton is never their project team that they try and push up the ladder or assist by giving a good draw to. How about a contra-Tasmanian type deal for Carlton with lots of money on the side? or a draw next year that features Carlton playing two games each against the bottom 6 clubs. Or a draw that doesn't feature playing at midnight on Wednesday nights or Monday or Sunday nights.

Stuff playing Essendon** twice, I would prefer to have a chance at winning more games than playing finals teams twice. How about eradicating Carlton's debt?

Why does Hawthorn only pay $500,000 towards equalisation despite massive profits, a York Park deal that the AFL set up for them that gives them so many benefits that other clubs don't get access to, what about Collingwood? Don't they have 80,000 members or something? Why don't they contribute more to equalisation?

Which club is going to be equalised next year? St Kilda, Melbourne or Brisbane? My tip is Brisbane. They've just won 3 flags, but need some money from Carlton.

Call the waaaahmbulance.

kingkerna · **Posted:** Wed Aug 06, 2014 2:06 pm

Inciteful

dane · **Joined:** Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:14 am **Posts:** 22357

What does that mean? Provocative?

kingkerna · **Posted:** Wed Aug 06, 2014 2:32 pm

dane wrote:

What does that mean? Provocative?

http://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2010/12/inciteful.html

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