S.Durdin survives?

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Surely only until Haynes arrives

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Being a key defender might have something to do with it . Reckon Durdin is a very good player and IF he could get himself right would be a big plus . Hopefully this new fitness guru is all he is cracked up to be .

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I find this baffling. Not sure if true but rumours are he and Carroll were told that they would have to wait until after the trade period to find out if they will be offered a contract. Surely this cannot be the case.

as Mickstar said, we lack for KPDs.

plus he's probably on pretty small coin c.f. what Marchbank was on and with what Gov, Kemp remain on.

Plus Kemp demonstrated added value as a backup KPF.

S Durdin hasn’t been on the park for 2 years but somehow he is worth keeping?

Yeah, Cuningham, Marchbank and Martin were all “pretty good players if they could get themselves right”, but like S Durdin they couldn’t and they’re rightly gone. S Durdin should be gone too, no more promising but injury players on our list please!

Surely not

yeah, sign me up for that too.

we’re going to look aweful dumb if it turns out it was all the concrete deck at Optus Oval banging up some elite players on huge coin for, what, six years now?

but who can say for now if it was the players or the turf exclusively? (other than Martin being injury prone before we took him).

this was reported about Owies numerous times on Gettable and they said same about Carol at least once IIRC.

my guess is they try to be reasonably careful
on what rumours they spread given
a) the AFL themselves produce this show (think of the potential mischief they could be up to as an AFL counter-intelligence agency lol) and they’re answerable to the clubs if it’s talking lies about clubs every week.
and b) the relationships the presenters seem to enjoy with administrators, recruiters and obviously *sources* at every single AFL club. they have a decent track record of making calls on player transfers and delistings i think.

seems obviously true given Owies contract status doesn’t it? would love to know what he’s been on and is asking cf Fantasia who is not being talked about as being uncontracted. (thought he come on a one year with a trigger for a second year or something).

i really don’t get it. who’s dog did he run over to deserve such disrespect?

happy to be patient with Motlop playing in the twos for the entire next season. seems to put more into celebrating other players goals than finding the ball most weeks. Not for a minute should this me interpreted as me denying his obvious x-factor (only on display some games most of them 2023 games ) and potential value as a mature player.

Regrettably Fantasia is on a two-year deal. Hopefully it is performance based....so for example, if you play 15 games you can score more than 10 goals within those games.
Round 18 vs GWS the match committee went with Fantasia over Owies. Very odd decision making. The last time Fantasia had played at the ground was 2019...so that impacts in terms of familiarity and being prepared. Owies, in contrast, had a strong record at the Giants ground having kicked goals there. I think he did his hammy there 2 years ago.

If they have to choose between who to keep on the list - Carroll or Owies - they have to keep Owies. I can get why Carlton was experimenting with different forward options and why sometimes earlier in the season they went with Fantasia, but by Round 18 you don't muck around with form. Owies is a better forward.

Voss loves fantasia. This is where his favouritism sets in. I would pay fantasia out to get that list spot.

Get rid of Sam Durdin too. He may be a back up tall, but he is always injured. Get back up talls from the State leagues for goodness sakes.

What type of scouts do we have. Back yourself in mate.

Durdin I could understand we wait until we secure a replacement
Fantasia I'd say we are obligated to considering we offered the extra year to get him in and he's been a contributor albeit not what many were hoping for. Not to mention the Owies situation.

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I don't see it as favouritism. Fantasia is our second highest rated player for goal assists per game. Whilst most of our mids put the ball 3m in front of the forwards bootlaces, Fantasia hits his targets. His foot skills are close to the best on our list. He also adopted the 3rd wingman/rotating half forward role which Cottrell was playing but too inconsistently. His body has been letting him down for years but he played 15 games for us this year. Probably more than most of our players.
The previous time he played more than 15 games was 2017. A year he kicked 39 goals.

If he understands his body better now and can consistently get on the park, he averages more kicks, handballs, marks, goals, goal assists, inside 50's and rebound 50's than Matt Owies per game over their careers. Plus he has more pace and is a better crumber. If his body is sound, I'd retain him without doubt.

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fantasia does many team things too. running as decoy and opening up the space. and he is always talking and pointing and being a leader out there.

Motlop already played most of this year in the VFL, and played very poorly at that level too. Times up for him, let’s move on.

And this is why " Vain " is such a highly respected poster . The bloke gets it " . Very good BV .

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There's something about Fantasia that makes most supporters not want him in the team...

But you can't deny that he outperforms most of the players we want to replace him with, and deserves his spot.



Martin, Cunners and Marchy... a sad tale of what could've/should've been... became list cloggers in the end.

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