A bit more from ericpascoe.
Thinks Gorringe, Sheehan and Galluci will be gone this week.
Graham and Simpson will get a contract.
Thomas offered a year.
Buckley and Boekhorst will depend on trade week/salary cap.
Casboult, contract on table-if he gets a better offer then bye bye.
Smedts, unknown.

Haven't been on the site all year, but had to vent regarding Dale Thomas.

If they re-sign Thomas you know the club is on a road to nowhere. I don't care about how good he is at "mentoring players". He is paid to play, and let's face facts for most of the year he was one of the club's bottom 4 or 6 players, yet still got a game.

He's played 4 years at Carlton at approx. 700k per year. ...when the market rate for him (with injuries) was no more than 500k (probably closer to 400k) (Whoever hired Thomas should never be allowed back in the club).

His output is average at best (never averaged more than 20 possessions a season per game).

So based on his output he would be a 400 k player at best based on market value, so he has been paid 300k x 4 over the market rate= 1.2 million.

They made a mistake. Thomas may be nicer than everyone - Jobe Watson included- but it doesn't change the facts that the club erred in recruiting him. He got his premiership with Collingwood. Time to move on.

Getting rid of KJ is a dumb move

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

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Why wasn't he selected to play for the last 3 years?

Something wrong with that. I don't think its the club.

I too hoped he would be kept for his potential.
Obviously there was no potential to improve in the areas of concern.

I saw him give Waite a bath over at Spotless 4 years ago.
Potential was there.

He came back home where his mates were......

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Whilst I'm not a big Daisy fan and its clearly been of many poor recruiting decision, I wouldn't be adverse to giving him another year. You're getting caught up with his previous salary. I don't think the fact he was overpaid in the past really comes in to consideration when deciding whether he gets another contract. I think we could delist the 10 worst performing players on the list and Thomas would probably survive that cull.

I agree that Daisy's previous contract shouldn't be a factor.
I would give him a year.
I would not give Nick Graham another contract. His best is still not great. Sadly, the same for Dylan Buckley. Just hasn't progressed enough in his time at Carlton.

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You are right, I am very much caught up in his previous salary. It saddens me that Carlton is a laughing stock, and it is because of decisions such as that one to hire Thomas. It is like offering $90,000 for a car that no one else in the market was willing to pay more than $30,000.

I understand errors with recruiting, it happens all the time, but this was on a bizarre level. Even a half-brain dead and semi-comotosed, drunk monkey with vision impairment couldn't make a decision that bad.

It is one of the main reasons why I rarely watch Carlton matches anymore.


Boekhorst got 26 possessions against Hawthorn- more than in any of Thomas's 18 games for the season...but what's the bet that Thomas gets one year contract, and Boekhorst is offloaded. That is reality at Carlton.

giving daisy another playing contract is laughable because he's cooked and we should be better than that now

if he's great with the young guys and a good tactical mind hire him as a coach

What happened previously is of no relevance at all.

I don't mind if he stays or goes but the decision needs to be made based on total list balance not because you're being petulant. If there are others headed to the wreckers first and Silvagni thinks we can get a $30000 car for $20000 then we should.

And "laughing stock"? Are you being teased at school? The general talk about our club is 80% positive assuming you're not reading the little paper.

Our list has improved immensely over the last two years. How about we let those who've done that follow their course rather than throwing our rattles out of the cot over one decision on which they have far more insight and information than you do.

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So, that gives us an unconfirmed or rumoured list of:

Jaksch
Buckley
Gorringe
Sheehan
Glass-McCasker
Gallucci
Korcheck
Armfield (retired)

No real surprises, I guess...

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a ridiculous move

That's just not true. Thomas is in our top 30 players. Our list build still has a fair way to go.

Say he is overpaid, say he is a shadow of his former self, but you can't say he is in our bottom 6.

The reason he will be retained is because we have at least half a dozen blokes who need to go first.

I don't have a problem with a 1 year contract on significantly less money. If we're moving forward as a club, he should be forced out of the team next year and spend much of the season in the VFL helping our kids develop.

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It's never as good as it looks and it's never as bad as it seems.

Why keep a player they won't pick?

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It's never as good as it looks and it's never as bad as it seems.

How old is he 22? KPP's take time, clearly has talent

He must be the laziest person on earth or a complete prick to the coaches etc etc- to warrant delisting

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

My belief is Collingwood is showing interest in KJ. Typical us, losing a player for nothing and watch him burn it .

SOS was more than happy to trade away KJ when at the Giants because he knew he was no good.

I'd be surprised if Boakhurst survives as SOS could not believe we recruited him in the first place.

trublubattler knows whats up

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dane's trolling again

I think about KJ getting the arse due to 'attitude'...... then I think of the Captain getting owned by Nic Newman

1 game in two years will do that to you.