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Who should be Carlton's next coach?
Teague 48%  48%  [ 125 ]
B Scott 2%  2%  [ 4 ]
Clarkson 13%  13%  [ 34 ]
Ratten 13%  13%  [ 33 ]
Voss 7%  7%  [ 18 ]
Malthouse 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Walls 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Caracella 3%  3%  [ 9 ]
Longmuir 1%  1%  [ 2 ]
Barker 0%  0%  [ 1 ]
Leppitsch 0%  0%  [ 1 ]
Mitchell 3%  3%  [ 7 ]
Bassett 1%  1%  [ 2 ]
Burns 2%  2%  [ 6 ]
Roos 3%  3%  [ 8 ]
Other 5%  5%  [ 12 ]
Total votes : 262
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:05 pm 
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AHHHAHHAH

funny cos kind of pretty much true. :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:29 pm 
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While he's admitted that he could have made them a little better, it's astonishing how much mileage the media is making out of Judd's statements.

What is it with their delight to create a friction in the Carlton hierarchy that in all likelihood wasn't there in the first place. The club is looking as healthy and stable as its been in decades, but I suppose the club has been an easy stomping ground in the past, so why not go back to this old but drying well to see what can be dredged up.

And the coaching situation has also changed. With a much more stable administration, football department and playing group, and with the benefit of hindsight from past coaching appointments (all of which possibly suited the needs AT THE TIME), they undoubtedly won't be using the same criteria or making similar mistakes this time round to make this appointment which is now clearly geared towards using the nucleus of the current playing group to achieve its next premiership success.

For all the pundits' speculations and rises they're trying to get out of the club, it seems from the outside that the club won't be rushed irrespective of all the media hype, that calmer heads are prevail over this appointment and they are giving Teague every opportunity to prove himself the rightful successor but still keeping options open.

For this reason, I am willing to respect the decision of the next coach more so than I have in previous appointments. Not sure there's more that we as Carlton fans can ask really.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:33 pm 
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Well Cuddly Ken (Hinkley) and Ross Lyon's stocks are plummeting by the week, if we can't get Clarkson, we may as well stick with Teague.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:06 pm 
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One call the board did get right, clearly, was to part ways with Bolton.

They could easily have just "gone with it" until seasons' end but they backed themselves in and changed things up, which was gutsy and could well have backfired. If we kept losing, the spotlight would have been on the list and it would have been hard to attract decent players or a quality coach and cycle continued to perpetuate. We may have even lost players. In the rearview, it's looking like a very astute move.

If we knock off the Suns this week and pinch a few more by seasons-end (including maybe a top 6 scalp...) things will be looking very positive for 2020 and beyond. First things first, need to beat he Suns this week. We owe them some pain after round 4!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:37 pm 
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You would have liked to have been behind closed doors when the discussions were going on about letting Bolton go .
Were all the assistant coaches consulted and asked an opinion - were the leadership group asked or was it just a decision that came from the board.
You wonder if Teague was asked what he would do different and was this taken into consideration .
It will be interesting how they decide from now going forward
Does Teague actually want the job - he has stated several times he wants to see if he is ready .
If he does decide to run for it what are his goals for the last 6 games - We have 2 very winnable games and 4 others against sides that could end up in the top 4
I think he needs 3 from 6 myself to sure up his position - Win the ones we should against Saints and GC and take another scalp from either Richmond Crows Eagles or Cats .

If he happens to win 4 of the last 6 and is not successful I suggest there might be a lynch mob down at PP looking for the board

His apparent honesty appears refreshing - he often gives the impression he is quite overwhelmed by the results .
Bolton made a major mistake by trying another year of development - I have said for a long time the team needed to win and this should have been at the forefront of his thinking .
He should have put the best possible side in their best possible positions from round 1 this year and let them play - It appeared from the outside looking in players were given stripes with out actually earning them whilst others were put aside to see out time.

I hope Teague wants the job and I hope he continues with the success he is having - the players will ultimately determine his fate and right now they are showing they want him on board

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:46 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
Does Teague actually want the job - he has stated several times he wants to see if he is ready .


I suspect that's just the media response. If he puts his hand up and says he wants it publicly, it will feed the media cycle. If he's smart, he'll be making sure the decision makers in the club know that he wants it. What he says publicly is irrelevant (if he's smart enough to know the game).


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:15 pm 
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This GC game is big for Teaguey’s chances of getting the senior gig full time. The first time they’ve had any sort of expectation to win on them since he’s taken over. This is the type of game we’d usually lose. GC are horrible but they’ll throw the kitchen sink at us after being smashed in the media all week. A win is non-negotiable


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:32 pm 
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Tom Brown on On the couch says that senior players have approached the Board and senior figures at the club saying they want Teague as the next coach.


Edit; may have been Tom Morris, not Brown.
Anyway, he said it.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:46 pm 
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Still the love for Clarkson and Roos persists.

I don't get it. Look at the state the D's are in - that should put a line through Roos being Mr Special Touch.

As for the Hawks - sitting not far above us last time I looked. Clarkson threw out a lot a senior players going for a quick rebound. Doesn't look to be working too well to me. Don't get me wrong, the bloke has 4 flags so obviously he can coach and if he was available we'd be mad not to talk him but ... I don't see him, (or anyone else), being worth a god father offer because they're so wonderful that they'll fix everything by themselves. Lets learn from Madhouse and not chase anyone too hard.


Agree, when has a messiah coach worked in the afl era. Matthews at lions and malthouse at pies maybe? All others seem to have gone terribly.

Most recent successful coaches are ones without any previous history.

I think Teague is our guy. If we keep up what we have done last 5 weeks rest of the year, the job has to be his.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:52 pm 
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david31 wrote:
This GC game is big for Teaguey’s chances of getting the senior gig full time. The first time they’ve had any sort of expectation to win on them since he’s taken over. This is the type of game we’d usually lose. GC are horrible but they’ll throw the kitchen sink at us after being smashed in the media all week. A win is non-negotiable


I agree, lose to Gold Coast it will show not enough has changed and blow a lot of goodwill generated last 5 weeks.

Some people expecting us to flog GC, we aren’t in a position to be expecting to flog anyone. I’ll take a one point win.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:52 pm 
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Let's hope so.
Great to hear the players are negind him too.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:54 pm 
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kezza wrote:
Tom Brown on On the couch says that senior players have approached the Board and senior figures at the club saying they want Teague as the next coach.



If the players want Teague to have the job, show us, this Saturday.

4 quarters, 8+ goal victory mandatory.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:57 pm 
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kezza wrote:
Tom Brown on On the couch says that senior players have approached the Board and senior figures at the club saying they want Teague as the next coach.

I hope this is bulldust. Not because I have anything against Teague, but because the players should be focused on beating GC, not trying to run the f’n club.

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kezza wrote:
Tom Brown on On the couch says that senior players have approached the Board and senior figures at the club saying they want Teague as the next coach.

I hope this is bulldust. Not because I have anything against Teague, but because the players should be focused on beating GC, not trying to run the f’n club.


Bulldust in the media? ....... Never :donk:

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:30 pm 
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kezza wrote:

Tom Brown on On the couch says '*. *'


aboynamedsue wrote:

= 'this is bulldust'


There you go ABNS, fixed it using old school programming :wink:


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:03 pm 
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billc3 wrote:
kezza wrote:

Tom Brown on On the couch says '*. *'


aboynamedsue wrote:

= 'this is bulldust'


There you go ABNS, fixed it using old school programming :wink:


Go Blues


A large portion of supporters must be easy marks for the media to peddle such crap and think it’s believable. At best it’s probably players like Murphy and Thomas being asked their opinions of Teague, which isn’t unexpected. That I would believe. As if the group made a formal approach to senior management. Take a story and give it that little twist for spicey clicks.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:14 pm 
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Flicked over to Footy Classified just in time to hear Judd defend his comments from last week.

Seemed to be going alright, then Caro lobbed one across the bow and his retort was to throw a tragically dead Phil Walsh under the bus.

I’m not convinced the great man’s lips are above the water line.

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Crusader wrote:
Flicked over to Footy Classified just in time to hear Judd defend his comments from last week.

Seemed to be going alright, then Caro lobbed one across the bow and his retort was to throw a tragically dead Phil Walsh under the bus.

I’m not convinced the great man’s lips are above the water line.



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If Judd wants experience then I hope we don't get it.

Roos - NWGFFO. He hates Carlton. Give him @#$% nothin'. Like Malthouse he would be doing it for the $$$$.
Scott - Much the same as Roos. Sad sack of a man.
Ratts - Would they. Not sure about him. Time under the Angry Midget is worth its weight. I worry about the old school guard getting in his ear. Perhaps he's matured. I thought he did a good job the 1st time but ....................
Voss - Not sure he has done enough but you wouldn't really know what he has done under Hinkley.

So that leaves all the Training Wheel Brigade (TWB).

Teague has possibly as good a CV as any on the TWB list.

On 12 October 2007, it was announced that Teague would continue with the Carlton Football Club, as a development coach with Carlton, and as playing-coach for the Northern Bullants (on the Bullants list as a VFL-listed player). In 2009, Teague retired from playing with the Bullants, but retained his coaching roles, and was able to coach the Bullants into the club's first Grand Final since 1984, however they finished runners-up to North Ballarat. In 2010, he again coached the Bullants into the Grand Final (which they again lost to North Ballarat).

2011, Teague was appointed as an assistant coach for the West Coast Eagles. After three seasons with the Eagles,
2013 Teague joined St Kilda
2014 Teague was appointed assistant coach (forwards) with the Adelaide Crows under newly appointed senior coach Phil Walsh who he had previously worked with during his time at West Coast.
2017 Teague was appointed assistant coach (forwards) at Carlton, returning to the club after a long absence.
2019 Half a season as Coach with a record of ???? win/loss.


Not sure why you would bring in anyone else from the TWB list who then has to build the re-pour Teague already seems to have.

Young hungry Coach with young hungry kids is what we are seeing now.

If we beat GC and gain further confidence, I think we are a real chance against the Crows. 5 wins from 7 games with the 2 losses under a goal looks okay on the Stats sheet. The run home from there is pretty Ugly with Tigers, WCE and Geelong in the mix but who knows.

Just don't pick Roos or Scott is all I ask.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:44 am 
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Cazzesman wrote:
If Judd wants experience then I hope we don't get it.

Roos - NWGFFO. He hates Carlton. Give him @#$% nothin'. Like Malthouse he would be doing it for the $$$$.
Scott - Much the same as Roos. Sad sack of a man.
Ratts - Would they. Not sure about him. Time under the Angry Midget is worth its weight. I worry about the old school guard getting in his ear. Perhaps he's matured. I thought he did a good job the 1st time but ....................
Voss - Not sure he has done enough but you wouldn't really know what he has done under Hinkley.

So that leaves all the Training Wheel Brigade (TWB).

Teague has possibly as good a CV as any on the TWB list.

On 12 October 2007, it was announced that Teague would continue with the Carlton Football Club, as a development coach with Carlton, and as playing-coach for the Northern Bullants (on the Bullants list as a VFL-listed player). In 2009, Teague retired from playing with the Bullants, but retained his coaching roles, and was able to coach the Bullants into the club's first Grand Final since 1984, however they finished runners-up to North Ballarat. In 2010, he again coached the Bullants into the Grand Final (which they again lost to North Ballarat).

2011, Teague was appointed as an assistant coach for the West Coast Eagles. After three seasons with the Eagles,
2013 Teague joined St Kilda
2014 Teague was appointed assistant coach (forwards) with the Adelaide Crows under newly appointed senior coach Phil Walsh who he had previously worked with during his time at West Coast.
2017 Teague was appointed assistant coach (forwards) at Carlton, returning to the club after a long absence.
2019 Half a season as Coach with a record of ???? win/loss.


Not sure why you would bring in anyone else from the TWB list who then has to build the re-pour Teague already seems to have.

Young hungry Coach with young hungry kids is what we are seeing now.

If we beat GC and gain further confidence, I think we are a real chance against the Crows. 5 wins from 7 games with the 2 losses under a goal looks okay on the Stats sheet. The run home from there is pretty Ugly with Tigers, WCE and Geelong in the mix but who knows.

Just don't pick Roos or Scott is all I ask.

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