Have checked in a bit over the past 24 hours in the middle of holidays and noticed a bit of self-appointed modification of the site.

I think it's all well & good to add new information to the site, expand the site, and work within what's there, but this is a community based project and changes to format, structure etc. should be made on a community basis. After putting in so much time to this over the past 18 months, including many biography format changes, I don't want to modify the structure (or reverse modications) any more.

If you would like to change the structure, please offer an idea through the forums, direct PMs or even in this thread. It is a much more efficient process and better for all concerned.

There has been some discussion among members of the Blueseum about particular aspects of the aesthetics of the player profiles.

Personally I have no opinion either way really with the particular aesthetic issues at hand.

IMO we are still in the early stages of construction, adding content is still the number one priority. The aesthetics can be left to a later day.

All websites go through major changes in look and style every now and then. I envisage that after the club takes over the site a major overhaul of the look of the site will occur. I'm hoping to come up with a super duper snazzy player profile template that most people should be happy with. The reason I have not done this already is that having a complicated page full of code would be very difficult to edit/add content for inexperienced users of the site.

So keep in mind, debating the point now about minor changes will most likely be a waste of time when down the track a big overhaul of the look of the pages will take place.

I'd rather just let them all evolve and see how they all turn out before all that happens though. The ideal player profile might develop organically and then can be copied in the major overhaul. Otherwise it will most likely be done by committee.

I know some want the Blueseum to be looking all beautiful and consistant now, but we are still going through the stage of having a truly open recruitment process and finding the best contributors. Therefore, at the moment keeping every page consistant is too big a job, we will be just chasing our tails all day long. Once the site is restricted after the handover then it can more easily be made consistant and prettied up.

Trust each other, add content and have fun with it. It will all work out in the end. I promise.

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I am not sure why we should see a Major Overhaul in future as our saviour for consistency when they were all largely consistent to start with? Before we commit to Major Overhauls we have to remember the many thousands of hours that have already gone into it to - to put tasks off into the future requiring substantial resourcing when we have a great base now ignores the work to this point in time. There is no need for a Major Overhaul and another 5000 hours of time if we just stick to the script now and concentrate on content; after all, that's what we are still lacking.

M

I never mentioned anything about it being a saviour. It is just something that will happen (and not just once, but at fairly regular intervals). I would argue that the player profiles have never been uniform, they are evolving over time.



That is the purpose of my message.

To let everyone know that formatting will be changed again and again, arguing over aesthetics now is just a waste of time and effort.

Better to concentrate on content (which is what I already said in the original post). Thus far all the main projects have been about adding content rather than formatting.



In terms of content, that is what I said.

I do not agree with the comment about sticking with a script the project is still in a very formative stage, when it is more complete greater controls can be put on the changing of the content.

In terms of the major formatting overhaul, I intend to start it off myself, if anyone wants to help that would be welcome.

If everyone could just concentrate on adding content rather than formatting issues that would be great.




Also, did you understand my point about the code?

When the pages are eventually made to look super professional they will be full of code.

They will look great, but will be difficult to edit in terms of content.

Therefore, it would be silly to implement the professional look now because it would stifle the ability of most people to add content. Better to do it down the track when the site is controlled by the club and only trusted contributors are left.

So in summary:
- overhaul would be just formatting NO LOSS OF CONTENT
- please just concentrate on adding content if you make changes to formatting you risk that work being lost in future upgrades.

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I am up to c in the player profiles and with the holidays uponess I will endevour to add bits of info. I feel compelled jars because of all the Beer I drank at the barbecue. Seriously its been pretty busy lately but i will get stuck in in the next week. Its fascinating to read all the profiles. A labour of love. The award should be ours now boys.

I had more than my own fair share of beers keogh.

A kind benefactor to the Blueseum has recently been supplying me with match reports from Inside Football from 1991.

This person has all issues of Inside Football dating back to 1974!!

They do not have time to write up the match reports so I was hoping to recruit a few to do them.

Basically respect the copyright of Inside Football and create a match report from their information (referencing correctly of course) and your own additions.

Anyone wanting to give it a go please PM me or send me an email at jarusa at iinet dot net dot au and I can send you the Inside Football match reports you would like to do.

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I had every issue of Inside Football from 95 and 96 but my mum threw them all out about 6 years ago.

I've got a 3AW football year book for 94 and 95 though. Some good pics in there if The Bluseum are interested.

Always interested if you can scan them and send them on. Even better if you can incorporate them into where you think they fit best in the Blueseum.

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I'll suss it out, there are a number of colour 95 Grand Final action shots.

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TheGame, great pics from the 95 GF, really appreciate that.

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They say the greatest form of flattery is imitation.

Well the guy who runs WestofMoorabin (a great site about the Saints history) is starting up a St Kilda equivalent of the Blueseum.

http://westofmoorabbin.com/SaintWiki/tiki-index.php

Hope it all goes well.

Maybe we should offer to share some info on all the players who have played for both Carlton and St Kilda?

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Impressive! Even a cross-reference! That ruddy Board of ours should have embraced the Blueseum by now - we should be telling the world about it, instead we have a guerilla marketing campaign run by amateurs (me included).

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For anyone with time over the school holidays, there remains a lot of work to do in the following areas:

* Debuts -page is half complete
* Milestones - access the File Gallery and add as many Milestones in as you can
* At the Tribunal - I need help rolling out a new section of the site tracking our success (!) at the Tribunal.

Please check the Blueseum forums for these and other areas or PM Jarusa, BlueWorld, WillowBlue or myself to assist,

M

I have a (unfortunately) not complete set of cards which I think were produced by Ardmona, or maybe SPC, in 1981 with player shots on the front and bios on the back. Does anyone else have these?

I could scan some for the Blueseum if anyone's interested. Unfortunately given that I was around 7 when I got them, I no longer have the whole set

That would be great.

If you like you can scan them and put them directly in the Blueseum yourself, or if you are not sure of exactly what to do you can send them to me and I can put them on the site on your behalf.

My email address is:

jarusa at iinet dot net dot au

Thanks.

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Cool. I love memorabilia like that.

How many are there, and which players are featured?

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Especially for you Deano:
http://www.blueseum.org/cfc/tiki-index. ... b%20Chitty

And Rhys whilst we're here:
http://www.blueseum.org/cfc/tiki-index. ... Rhys-Jones

Does anyone remember the actual rounds in which Bosustow (1981) and Hunter took their Marks of the Year? Further, was Hunter's an official MOTY? Is there such a thing as an official MOTY?

I love the 'victim' collumn

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We have a new addition to the Blueseum.

It is called The Carlton Bible (click here to download), it is a 750k excel spreadsheet with details about every player to have played a senior game at the Blues.

This spreasheet was compiled by Stephen Williamson who has been extremely generous in allowing this to be available to the carlton supporting community.

I imagine it would have taken thousands of hours of research to compile this spreadsheet (and this is a stripped down version of the original), Stephen is the epitomy of a true blue (I think a nomination for Life Membership of the club should be in order).

Anyone wanting to do more work on the Blueseum can use this spreadsheet to input data. For everyone else it is one of the better argument breakers/bet deciders there is.

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Very cool!

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