Massive unders for cloke he would be worth two picks in top ten easy

It'd be exceptionally difficult for Collingwood to land another player though.

They pick up someone through free agency (outside of Harry O leaving too), they get no compensation for Cloke.
They may retain a player or two, which Geelong also did with Ablett, so I doubt that would play much of a part.
Unless they pick up someone like a Caddy or Zac Smith through throwing away a first rounder, they probably wouldn't entertain such a deal unless they had decent compo for Cloke secured.

_________________
BLUES 2010: PAV AND JUDD = FLAGS. DOING IT FOR THE LOVE OF DICK PRATT.

HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

Compared to the compensation that some clubs received for losing players to the expansion teams it really is a joke.

And that's the risk he runs again going early on Cloke. Every indication is that he's coming. It's definitely more likely than not ... as it stands now ... but this is the Clokes we are dealing with and the Pies will be desperate.
Things could easily change.

_________________
I just want my old club back ... (edit) maybe I have!

But he's a filthy premiership player...they have to!
Don't they?

It's not his fault Eddie got rid of the coach who got the best out of him.
Their supporters would boo Eddie and Bucks instead, or is that a bit too complex for filth supporters?

I doubt Cloke will be at Carlton.
I'm with Sombrero on this, we have a few we can develop and if we have to trade for a KPF then I'd go for Lynch at a cheaper price (less TPP pressure) till our kids grow up.

_________________
Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

Saw all the Pies players at Motel last night, no sign of Cloke however

Coincidence?

Bunkered down with Dad furiously fingering calculator ... so to speak.

_________________
I just want my old club back ... (edit) maybe I have!

Big call for Pies to match our offer considering they'll be sending a message to every future free agent that they'll cave on terms if they do.

I'm still split on whether I want Cloke and I'm not sure if we'll know if it was the right move for a couple of years but I'm glad it's not one of our A graders doing this to us.

_________________
“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb

Don't you mean abacus and crayons?

One post deleted, posting rule 3.3.

All these zeroes ... now where does the decimal point go?!?!?!???

_________________
I just want my old club back ... (edit) maybe I have!

Rrrrrrright there...........oh, whoops Dad, I think I've made a mistake.

Look he easily warrants a 5 year deal the pies have put themselves in a tough position as they really need to now cave in.

Darren Parker (?) on SEN said he heard exactly the same thing.....heavily front loaded etc...

What he heard was that his father wants him to take the money but he is still keen to stay at the Pies.

Heavily front loaded?

Guess we're preparing for a clean out?

buying a flag

_________________
*(grow - fun - gah)

Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Not necessarily....

I think its a combination of things:

-Judds own contract being heavily front ended, this being his final year meaning he isnt on as much coin as previous years.
-Clearing out of experienced guys like Russell, Thornton, Bower and probably one of Warnock/Hampson will free up some cash, albeit probably not a significant amount.
-Waite/Simpson/Scotland on veterans list so only half of pay in the cap
-McLean more than likely to get a reduction in the price of his new contract, given his 400k+ over 3 years for very little output over the first 2 years.
- The recent signings of Murphy, Gibbs, Kreuze, Yarran some of which likely to be backended given the club at the time had an inkling theyd be making a play for a big fish in the off season.
- Players possibly taking pay cuts to accommodate Cloke (not sure about the truth to this but have read it before)

_________________
Carlton. Yes, Carlton are into the grand final!!!
- Drew Morphett, after 1999 prelim final

Joffa the peanut from Collingwood has posted on Facebook that Cloke to stay at Pies, 5 yr deal agreed.

Staying at coll according to the most reliable of sources........joffa on twitter.

I'd make a smart arse comment but he could well be right

_________________
We are on our way back...

Pretty sure he said something earlier in the year about him definitely going?

_________________
BLUES 2010: PAV AND JUDD = FLAGS. DOING IT FOR THE LOVE OF DICK PRATT.

HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?