Teams can say it but is it true Synbad?

Matthew Knights constantly talks about his young team but they're putting out a team equivalent in age to Adelaide!
Mark Harvey spruikes his young team but they were on average a year older than the Carlton boys on Sunday.

Our players are 2 - 21/2 years behind St Kilda and Geelong. How good will Kruezer, Gibbs, Murphy, Bower, Hampson etc etc be in 2012?
That's when comparisons with the top teams should be made.

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No, im just asking how old was Hawthorns team when they won the flag last year BV...
And oes that mean if we swapped Dew for Garlett we are a premiership chance?

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I will say it again 24.7

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Ok so next year we should win the flag???

Look we should go out and get Hall... that should fix us right???

Flag favourites.

We should be older than 24.7 by then with the same side and Hall...

Also...why not play Scotland Stevens Hadley and get our average age up????

See.. its not about age.... its about what you do with the list you own...

Its one excuse after the other...

Dark decade can easily become a dark 2 decades.... ask Richmond supporters..

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You are only as good as your midfield allows you to be.

When we had just Stevens and Murph our defence and attach was pathetic
When we had Stevens, Murph and Gibbs our defence and attack was bad
Now with Judd, Murph, Gibbs and carrotts and stevo our dence and attack is improving.
We had a chance to get a gun midfielder in Rich which would have made us:
Judd, Murph, Gibbs, Rich, Carrotts, Stevo our defence and attach would be good if not really good.

They control how the balls goes into the forward line and how often and how quick it goes into our defence.

Hawthorn had an average defencive 6 at best but with their midfield and game plan were able to make their back 6 look great

Here is all the info here Synbad

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_m ... s?mid=4134


Not only that they only had 3 players with less than 50 games - last weekend we fielded 11 or 12

They also had 11 players over 100 games - last week we had 4

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And i explained how that doesnt have credibility.. if you add Stevens Scotland and Hadley into that side....

Or dont you get that bit?

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We can fix that with adding Stevens Scotland and Hadley into the side...

And by the end of the year... we will have a few more that would have played 50... would they be ready to win a flag???

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Next year we could be younger again because blokes like Stevens Scotland and Houlihan will start to struggle to get a game

when we have a core group of about 14-15 players that have developed together with 80 games plus we will be a far better side

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Syd and what is it about Ratts that suggests he is getting the most out of our players including the older ones you believe shouldnt make the team next year..... to make us even younger???

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Ok put it this way...

Our more elderly statesmen all look like they have hit some kind of glass ceiling.... including Fev...

Were not getting more out of them... and they are stagnating and going backwards.... some in a real hurry...

Then there are kids that ebb and flow like we know kids do...

Then there are middle tier players who havent really put their hand up...


So were using the analogy that as they get older they will be better...but how do you know when you watch the older ones falling away????

Just cos a list is young does not mean it will automatically bring success as they get older.

What players seem to be coming along in leaps and bounds at any age???

Would there be ten????

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Being a mod i'd think you would read through every post to see that i mentioned both these names Sanderson and Laidley in a post several days ago before they appeared in todays the paper.

You owe me an apology or i'll will request you be banned for 24 hours for making false accusations

Joseph has improved
Austin has improved
Gibbs has improved
Kruez has improved
Jamison has improved
Bower has improved
Hampson has improved
Betts - best season yet
Armfield is improving
Murphy - is improving
Setanta - has improved
Garlett - gets better every game
Russel- ducks head - has improved slightly
Carrazzo- been injured but played his best game ever last week - kicking really improved


Judd- is the same
Simpson - is the same
Thornton -same
Waite - was having his best year
Johnson - has been injured most of the year

Houlihan- Cloke - Scotland - Stevens - Wiggins - Hadley - Fisher - have all gone backwards


and Fev - well who knows what he is doing


Not a bad overall result but of the ones that have gone backwards they have had question marks over their heads for quite some time now

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Same, but possibly not in the same way you are.

You imply you know something from inside the club. Real, or is it just "I know a guy, who knows a guy, whose next-door neighbour said his mate told him...."?

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As Dannyboy points out questioning is different to he isn't the man.

Following on from your observations isn't it funny we have won four of five games against your second tier and lost all four against your third tier teams.

Unfortunately that is where perception comes in....... I agree with you, but I'm sure Synbad won't

Whatabout everybody else on our list???

And some of the ones you reckon are improving are improving cos theyre in the system now...

And lets just take Betts for example... improving at what?Kicking even more out of his arse????
Im a huge Betts fan.... but do you believe Betts can have more of a role in the middle to improve him even more or is his best position always going to be the guy who touches it 9 times at isolation corner and kicks 2 out of his backside???

Setanta... how much development was put into him by this coaching regime? or has he just come out and played against all odds?

Hartlett... we have 10 tall defenders do we need him playing week in week out in defence of the ressies or is it an opportunity this week..to bring him in and play him as a forward ... for 3 or 4 weeks and hope we can develop some kind of forward out of him...

Russell.. with 40 games as a tagger and being in the top 4 runners at the club do you take the tag role away from him and get him to become a line breaking runner??


Id say of all those you listed ... the two who have GENUINELY come along are Bower and Joseph..
The others are always going to improve organically at whatever rate without development.

Carrazzo... he will never be a defender... is it wise to get him to be an on baller and get his hands on the ball for us.. or just have him as a flanker??

And whats the gameplan????

Cos really youre saying alot of players are coming along... but were a muddle...(youre putting it down to age .. im putting it down to gameplan)

And not once have i blamed the playing group.... i believe we have MORE talent than we have illustrated...not that we have no talent...

Good to see you agree its not the playing list......

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Belisarius with all that up and coming talent we should be showing improvement in the style of play if the coaching was technically ok right???

So you agree...!!!.. it has nothing to do with the list....

Excellent my point all along...

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Again what im trying to say is the kids are improving bit by bit...
Kreuzer is an excellent player... and battled manfully...
Kids have defficiencies...has Grigg and Murph for example taken on more of a defensive accountability mindset.?
Does special K need to look at the opposition ruckman at the bounces?
IS Armfield the man you give the ball to kick out after a point or collect the handball receive?
Can Russell run the lines?
Can Gibbs go forward to kick a goal?
Can we get more out of Betts ?



Why are all our older players who have little upside now fallen away???

I do not believe there is a problem with the talent list.... just with how we utilise it..

How do the players all fit in with each other playing our code on match day???

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