Correct...we can't use the blanket, "they''ll be monstered" as a mitigating factor to deny them every f%$%&^& CSB

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As I stated already he's no Cotchin but is not soft either.
You don't average that many tackles being soft.

Comparisons aside, Teague is killing him down back.
And no matter what way people want to try and paint him as a player, effort, etc. He is 100% being played out of position.
He was not drafted as a Half Back, he is not a defensive player.
Draft stats below (it even says how he should be played in the AFL).

Name: Sam Petrevski-Seton
Position: Midfield/half-forward
DOB: 19-02-1998
Height: 181cm
Weight: 76kg
Draft range: 5-10

Pub summary
Speedy half-forward/midfielder who loves to bring his teammates into the game and can use the ball well with both feet and knows how to find the goals.

Strengths
Pace
Sidestep
Ball use
Clean
Ability to kick well on both feet
Goal kicking ability
Unselfish

Weaknesses
Strength
Endurance
Consistency
Overall

Petrevski-Seton played senior football with Claremont in Western Australia in 2015, preparing him for the competitiveness of senior AFL football. Niggling injuries prevented him from playing senior football again this season, however, he has produced impressive numbers when on the park for his colts side in WA.

He has brilliant explosive speed and silky ball use. His light frame means he is unlikely to play in the midfield when first drafted, but after serving his apprenticeship as a small forward, he will no doubt graduate into the midfield later in his career.

Knows his way around goal, but he needs to work on his strength in and around the contest, which will come as he matures in the AFL system. He does not rack up a huge number of possessions, however, his disposals are worth their weight in gold.

Under-18 Championships statistics

Games: 2
Average disposals: 18.5
Average contested possessions: 9
Goals: 1
Average marks: 2.5
Average tackles: 5.5
Average clearances: 2.5
Average clangers: 4
Average inside 50s: 3

Hey Sidex those Player Profile definetely says HF-Mid to me too.
I agree there's a strong case he is played out of position, but 6 disposals from HB is pitiful...I know the arument Teague has killed Bambi.

I haven't seen explosive speed.
Maybe he has the knack of wrong footing opponents and seems to explode away from them, or he does have that pace.

Goal kicking ability is something we need, but also good delivery to our forwards.

It seems like such a waste, but on form he shouldn't be playing HB or in the first 22.
Maybe Teague sees him as the only other HB with Newman and Marchbank (and Plowman last game) on the sidelines.

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Hey Bondi, like you and every other Carlton supporter, I'm confused as to what Teague is trying to do with him.
But I agree he should either be moved forward up the ground or dropped, because we are slowly seeing week by week the death of a very talented kid.
And a head coach should understand this and his players and that some players are either attack, defence or both.

I think the biggest issue with playing SPS in the midfield is his lack of speed. We are already slow enough, which is why we need Dow to come on. It's just a shame injury has stalled his season.

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He said words to the effect of:
Structured footy is for white boys. Let the indigenous boys play to their strengths.

I hate structured footy but there is no way to win games now without having a structure.
There is an in between.

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Does anyone else here find Teague’s voice patronising in his pressers. Perhaps a tad cocky, yet completely unwarranted.
This could be a concern. On the other hand, what you see/hear is what you get with Ratts, which appears to have a positive affect on the winning saints.

I personally don’t have any issues with Teague in his pressers. Actually think he presents pretty well.

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Doesn't look too slow to me.
Just a lazy 35 touches.

nope

Cotchin played 15 games in his first year, 10 in his second year... the knock on him as in TAC was his tank, and ability to handle tags... the good thing about watching Cotchin play in the TAC, was I got to see Kruezer play too...

As for SPS, against the Pies (Round 7 2017) on a wet slippery day:

16 Kicks, 5 Handballs, 21 Disposals, 4 Marks, 2 Goals, 1 Behind, 3 Tackles, 1 Goal Assist, 2 Inside 50s, 3 Clearances,
2 Clangers, 2 Rebound 50s, 10 Contested Disposals, 12 Uncontested Possessions, 15 Effective Disposals, 1 Mark Inside 50,
2 One Percenters, 1 Centre Clearance, 2 Stoppage Clearances, 7 Score Involvements, 312 Metres Gained, 4 Turnovers,
3 Intercepts, 1 Tackle Inside 50, 68% Time on Ground, 3 Brownlow Votes

Dogs (Round 5, 2019), under the roof, on a dry, fast track:

14 Kicks, 21 Handballs, 35 Disposals, 7 Marks, 1 Goals, 1 Behind, 0 Tackles, 0 Goal Assist, 4 Inside 50s, 7 Clearances,
4 Clangers, 2 Rebound 50s, 15 Contested Disposals, 23 Uncontested Possessions, 31 Effective Disposals, 1 Mark Inside 50,
2 One Percenters, 2 Centre Clearance, 5 Stoppage Clearances, 1 Score Involvements, 320 Metres Gained, 1 Turnover,
5 Intercepts, 0 Tackle Inside 50, 85% Time on Ground, 2 Brownlow Votes

You can see the improvement in his numbers...

He hunted the football, he hunted the man, he was creative, he was able to do it in different conditions (in the wet and under the roof), he won his own ball, on the inside/outside... was he the finished product, absolutely not, however he looks lost in the back half, and it's not like we're flush with mids of any age, we have no depth in the midfield, we get consistently run over in games, that might have something to do with the midfield...

All I'm advocating is giving some midfield time to SPS, Dow and Fish to spread the load, continue their development as mids, and to find out what we have...

Maybe all three of our boys are crap, they've all shown good signs as mids so maybe not, either way let's find out, especially since we need lot's of mids!!!

And SPS got Brownlow votes in two other games after the game against the Pies. Just sayin'.

Perhaps "patronising" is the wrong word. Perhaps it is difficult to converse to the media when its via Zoom format. I know from personal experience that it is not a natural feeling talking to a computer screen as opposed to a person in the room. I do feel that Teague's public speaking could do with some improvement. I guess that this will come with experience but I do feel that there is a tinge of "artificial" front to his media work. Perhaps he has been told to "play a straight bat', which is not my choice in communication style.

regarding sps he has to increase his strength and fitness over pre season to play a mid role position in 21 / trade him back to perth side if he is not happy in melbourne ,because him playing HBF is not working

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Not all picks are going to make it and not all top 10 picks make it - trade SPS and get what we can for him and hopefully in another environment he does well for his sakes. Like all others I had high hopes but is regressing.. should always do what Geelong do and leave them in reserves for 2-3 years but fear SPS is cooked. Playing kids is all good but run the risk of burning them and the examples are endless from all clubs.

The cattle Teague has to work with or the 'cake' is pretty solid for next 5-7 years. The known knowns

Backs - Docherty, Weitering, Williamson, Plowman, Marchbank, Newman
Mids - Cripps, Setterfield, Walsh, Kennedy,
Fowards - Charlie, McKay, Silvagni, McGovern (Martin, Gibbons, Fisher, Cunningham - midfield rotation)
Rucks - TDK

Definitely a very good nucleus to work with and some glaring gaps.

No I think he presents well in his "pressers".

I would have preferred more "dirty" ball than bombing it blindly to Moore or Haynes.

With Martin, Betts, Fish, and at times cunners, the ground ball in the forwardline, to no one in particular, they would at least swoop on the ball or put pressure on the defender who gets ball first.

Kicking it high to opposition KPD's effectively terminates the forward thrust.

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No

BUT, because he says the same thing every week, this year, as opposed tolast year where he pointed out situations and made big moves to change the game, I'm finding him monotonous.

He seemd very tired a couple of weeks ago, the day before the Pies game, and came across as arrogant.

Ratten doesn't give away much either...all coaches talk in cliches.

The days where a coach like Blight would single out Pitman the pathetic ruckman are gone. I think the AFLPA hold too much power.

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