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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2025 11:03 pm 
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Melbourne beat Gold Coast
The western derby ends in a draw
We will be sitting stone motherless last

They did zero to improve the list in draft and trade period.

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Think you are forgetting Jagger Smith at pick #3. big loss that he's out for the season because what he can bring is a lot of what we are missing in transition and on the outside. classy ball use, speed and agility with the ball in hand.

Tonight we lacked having that spread of eight or nine goal scorers getting their one or two goals each. Our best midfielders have never been prolific scorers or even prolific goal assists at the best of times… Kennedy was one of our more reliable goal kicking, forward entry kicking mids but we ditched him. As for half forwards and small forwards with the Williams injury and no Elijah, Fantasia or Harry it left cupboard was pretty bare. Ling and Malthouse on ABC said every one of Walsh's possessions were garbage touches that had no influence on the game. Acres and Doc used to be play makers on current form they're closer to hot ball butchers.

We did a lot right and Kemp should be celebrated for keeping us in the game multiple times by kicking clutch goals. One of the few who kept his nerve under pressure.
Some posters are unbelievable.
I hear the constant calls for Carroll who has yet to play out a reserves game.
We have seen 1 quarter in a nothing to play for practice game of Jagga and he will be the difference.
How do we know Jagga is not going to be another Paddy Dow

Give these kids a chance before saying they are the difference makers.



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I find it amazing how people like you tell blatant lies and then when called out for lying you move the goal posts. You said we did nothing in the draft or trade. You didn't say we brought sub-par players in, you said we did nothing at all. Classic move from someone whose best form is in shit stirring Blue supporters and rubbishing the entire team.

Pretty sure Jagger was identified by Gettable as a top-5 pick, if you think jagger is likely to be another Paddy Dow that's on you. Campo brothers are also ok by the looks of it, no worse than Acres and Doc are today and with a couple of seasons will run out games better and improve in all facets of their game. I've also bemoaned the lack of picking up an elite KPD in the trade or potential KPD in the draft, and losing a reliable goal kicker and and frequent drought breaker in Owies to get pick #3 but I cant agree that Austin did nothing at all.
Oh so gettable is now the bench mark.
Maybe we just sack the recruitment staff and just pick what the gettable guys say we should

Tell me how is it all working out.

Oh we are 0 -3 for the 8th time in 18 years.

And odds on to end up 0 -4



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2025 11:06 pm 
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There's not a club in the competition that would be concerned about giving up a lead to the Blues. Every team knows that we start well but will fade out.

The Cripps, Weitering, Curnow, McKay era is dead in the water. It produced a purple patch that got us 5 goals up in a prelim.

You can stick your AA's, Coleman's and brownlows up your arse. They mean absolutely nothing.

The window has shut before it even opened. What a monumental waste of talent


Quite sad when you put it like that ...

What's also sad is watching Walsh. The guy just isn't match fit. You know what he's capable of but his best is still weeks away, if not longer.

What's also very sad is watching Doc play. Loved him over the years but I think father time has caught up.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2025 11:07 pm 
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Voss talked ok in the pressrr but certainly at the start looked like a dead man walking

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2025 11:08 pm 
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Disappointed in our match committee refusing to play any young player tonight if Evans is in our top 23 to 26 players will will be bottom 4
Voss is a coach with no idea let’s face it if he was any good he would still be coaching Brisbane


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2025 11:08 pm 
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We had a crack tonight and it could have gone either way.
The umpires I thought changed the game in the second half. Some of the frees to the WB were a joke and directly resulted in goals.
Very frustrating and it looks like a complete waste of a year. Sad thing is we don't have a first round draft pick and you have to wonder how we will improve next year.
Hard to believe it has come to this.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2025 11:11 pm 
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Aaahhh, I got nuthen....

@#$%&! em all

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2025 11:20 pm 
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What i didn't like in first quarter is when things going well lots of rubbing the oppositions nose in it. I know some people like this but I'd rather they just put the score on the board and continue on with it

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2025 11:22 pm 
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Bevo talked about adjustments he made during the game.

Voss never talks about this…….because he never makes adjustments during the game.

He doesn’t know how to coach.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2025 11:52 pm 
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The adjustments were made at the opening bounce. After that who knows

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 1:32 am 
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Waking up on the other side of the world and the news is still shit. :cry:


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 4:58 am 
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I actually think that is pretty close to how Voss wants us to play.
And it is clearly not good enough.
We have some injuries but, for this year, we only really have McKay and Elijah who could come in and make a difference. (They were missing their two best midfielders and a livewire forward.)

I wonder if the Board is seriously thinking about this.

The two moments for me were Motlop not passing to Evans and also Cripps I think in the 3rd blasting long when he could have handballed to release a teammate (maybe Cerra) running alongside him on the inside who would have been able to put the ball deep and possibly pinpoint a free player.

Having said that, I strongly disagree that Cripps is done - he is 3 games after a totally dominant season.
I do think we are wasting our top tier talent but it’s far from over - this time last year, Toby Greene & Hogan looked past it and so did the whole Lions team. There is still time (I’m not really talking about this year but there are still 2-3yrs after this that our top tier will be to tier IMO.)

But the game plan needs to change ASAP. That was close to what Voss wants and it is nowhere near good enough for long enough.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 7:22 am 
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Score sources

Follow Wheeloratings!

https://www.wheeloratings.com/afl_match ... D=20250302

Kick in
Dogs 1.0.6
Blues 0.1.1

Stoppage
Dogs 4.8.32
Blues 3.3.21

Turnover
Dogs 7.3.45
Blues 8.5.53

Defensive half
Dogs 4.3.27
Blues 6.5.41

Forward half
Dogs 8.5.53
Blues 2.3.15

Centre bounce
Dogs 0.3.3
Blues 3.1.19

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 7:37 am 
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Too many dumb footballers. So many players with ball in hand more often than not kick to opposition adantage

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 8:42 am 
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The_Cranium wrote:
There's not a club in the competition that would be concerned about giving up a lead to the Blues. Every team knows that we start well but will fade out.

The Cripps, Weitering, Curnow, McKay era is dead in the water. It produced a purple patch that got us 5 goals up in a prelim.

You can stick your AA's, Coleman's and brownlows up your arse. They mean absolutely nothing.

The window has shut before it even opened. What a monumental waste of talent


We have a winner. There it is. Peaked in 2023. That was our year to do a doggies 2016 but we fell short
Bottom 6 (or even 4) coming up. TdK will leave, others will sook it up and just collect paychecks.

Hawks will turn the pick we gave them into an absolute gun and win multiple flags before the decade is out.

The kindest thing we can do is trade Cripps whetever he wants to go, to try and get a flag. We owe him.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 8:44 am 
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There was a stat last night that
Evans played 60% of game time
Fogarty played 68% of game time
We also had 12 interchanges left at the end of the game.
No wonder the players were out on their feet.
We virtually had 3 subs WTF is going on


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 8:45 am 
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I like the way we play when we are fresh but we fall away once the legs start to go in the 3rd. We really need to recruit players with big tanks in the next few off seasons. Until then we are a bottom 4 list.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 8:48 am 
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It was always heading to this

Club does not know how to build a squad to be a continual premiership threat

We have relied on top end talent to win games. It was the same during the Ratten era.

You might want to call it the messiah complex.

The problem is we persist with it for too long. Cripps, Weitering and Curnow are towards the end of their careers now. Let that sink in knowing our youth is ordinary and we don’t have a first round pick at the next draft.

Add that to an outdated game plan and it feels like we are back in 2014/2015 territory.

Club is a basket case. Only thing holding it together is the level of support base it is fortunate to have.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 9:12 am 
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We will probably lose TDK and get a pick. Then if we find the courage to trade out a player with currency we might be able to work our way to a lower pick.
Then have Jagga in. Get games into Lord and Campos . I don't think we are in 2015 territory. We can still tweak our list in and be well placed in 27/28.
Just need to let go of the Gov, Saad, Young, Doch, Williams, Haynes , Evens types. All of our pockets, wingers and flankers need to be skilled, durable and have massive tanks.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 9:40 am 
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Most people think the top tier players are dragging everyone else along, so why not the coaches? Hence the spare interchanges and limited game time. A bit like in previous decades some of the less experienced players only came on the ground a few times for limited minutes

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 9:46 am 
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Effes wrote:
Score sources

Follow Wheeloratings!

https://www.wheeloratings.com/afl_match ... D=20250302

Kick in
Dogs 1.0.6
Blues 0.1.1

Stoppage
Dogs 4.8.32
Blues 3.3.21

Turnover
Dogs 7.3.45
Blues 8.5.53

Defensive half
Dogs 4.3.27
Blues 6.5.41

Forward half
Dogs 8.5.53
Blues 2.3.15

Centre bounce
Dogs 0.3.3
Blues 3.1.19

Best stat on that website is we are 17th for kicking efficiency. 58.7% only West Coast is worse.
North Melbourne are second best so that game might be a loss also unless we can change it.


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