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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 1:25 pm 
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So last spot out of DGB and Liam McMahon


I reckon they'll keep it open for the mid-season draft. McMahon is committed to the VFL side.


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sticksaftersiren87 wrote:
So last spot out of DGB and Liam McMahon

There's still two spots open

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Good decision. No more injury plagued players please.

While I don't disagree, didn't the young bloke miss pretty much all of last season with injury?

Yep, and I don’t think MC played the year before either (his draft year). Happy to be corrected, but I don’t think he’s played a fair dinkum game for 2 years. The clips from his underage year, and from this preseason, are impressive though.

So it’s a speculative selection - he won’t play senior footy in 2025, you wouldn’t think - but he is obviously resilient and talented.

I wonder if S.Durdin broke down again? Presumably we’re in the market for a mature age KPD, and you’d reckon being in our system for a couple of years would have been an advantage. Maybe they were seeing if he could get through the preseason before committing to him and his body failed him (again)?

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
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Heavs wrote:
Traveller86 wrote:
Good decision. No more injury plagued players please.

While I don't disagree, didn't the young bloke miss pretty much all of last season with injury?

Yep, and I don’t think MC played the year before either (his draft year). Happy to be corrected, but I don’t think he’s played a fair dinkum game for 2 years. The clips from his underage year, and from this preseason, are impressive though.

So it’s a speculative selection - he won’t play senior footy in 2025, you wouldn’t think - but he is obviously resilient and talented.

I wonder if S.Durdin broke down again? Presumably we’re in the market for a mature age KPD, and you’d reckon being in our system for a couple of years would have been an advantage. Maybe they were seeing if he could get through the preseason before committing to him and his body failed him (again)?
Matt Carroll played a dozen games in 2023. School, Sandringham & Vic Metro.

Growth spurt, OP, whatever. They shut it down early last year & from the looks of him, he didn’t waste the time off his legs just sitting around.

Well done to him. :thumbsup:

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 4:16 pm 
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Crusader wrote:
aboynamedsue wrote:
Heavs wrote:
Traveller86 wrote:
Good decision. No more injury plagued players please.

While I don't disagree, didn't the young bloke miss pretty much all of last season with injury?

Yep, and I don’t think MC played the year before either (his draft year). Happy to be corrected, but I don’t think he’s played a fair dinkum game for 2 years. The clips from his underage year, and from this preseason, are impressive though.

So it’s a speculative selection - he won’t play senior footy in 2025, you wouldn’t think - but he is obviously resilient and talented.

I wonder if S.Durdin broke down again? Presumably we’re in the market for a mature age KPD, and you’d reckon being in our system for a couple of years would have been an advantage. Maybe they were seeing if he could get through the preseason before committing to him and his body failed him (again)?
Matt Carroll played a dozen games in 2023. School, Sandringham & Vic Metro.

Growth spurt, OP, whatever. They shut it down early last year & from the looks of him, he didn’t waste the time off his legs just sitting around.

Well done to him. :thumbsup:


Agree. I also wouldn't be surprised to see him earn a game this year. There's a role there at half back for someone to grasp and if his body stays sound, he's up to the task.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
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jezzarules wrote:
sticksaftersiren87 wrote:
So last spot out of DGB and Liam McMahon

There's still two spots open

Ok just read the HS article that says we're not putting Newman on the inactive list until it's 100% he can't return this year (a call to be made ahead of MSD).

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Crusader wrote:
aboynamedsue wrote:
Heavs wrote:
Traveller86 wrote:
Good decision. No more injury plagued players please.

While I don't disagree, didn't the young bloke miss pretty much all of last season with injury?

Yep, and I don’t think MC played the year before either (his draft year). Happy to be corrected, but I don’t think he’s played a fair dinkum game for 2 years. The clips from his underage year, and from this preseason, are impressive though.

So it’s a speculative selection - he won’t play senior footy in 2025, you wouldn’t think - but he is obviously resilient and talented.

I wonder if S.Durdin broke down again? Presumably we’re in the market for a mature age KPD, and you’d reckon being in our system for a couple of years would have been an advantage. Maybe they were seeing if he could get through the preseason before committing to him and his body failed him (again)?
Matt Carroll played a dozen games in 2023. School, Sandringham & Vic Metro.

Growth spurt, OP, whatever. They shut it down early last year & from the looks of him, he didn’t waste the time off his legs just sitting around.

Well done to him. :thumbsup:

Happy to be corrected about his 2023 season :thumbsup:

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 8:56 pm 
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aboynamedsue wrote:
Crusader wrote:
aboynamedsue wrote:
Heavs wrote:
Traveller86 wrote:
Good decision. No more injury plagued players please.

While I don't disagree, didn't the young bloke miss pretty much all of last season with injury?

Yep, and I don’t think MC played the year before either (his draft year). Happy to be corrected, but I don’t think he’s played a fair dinkum game for 2 years. The clips from his underage year, and from this preseason, are impressive though.

So it’s a speculative selection - he won’t play senior footy in 2025, you wouldn’t think - but he is obviously resilient and talented.

I wonder if S.Durdin broke down again? Presumably we’re in the market for a mature age KPD, and you’d reckon being in our system for a couple of years would have been an advantage. Maybe they were seeing if he could get through the preseason before committing to him and his body failed him (again)?
Matt Carroll played a dozen games in 2023. School, Sandringham & Vic Metro.

Growth spurt, OP, whatever. They shut it down early last year & from the looks of him, he didn’t waste the time off his legs just sitting around.

Well done to him. :thumbsup:

Happy to be corrected about his 2023 season :thumbsup:
There was an article posted about him only playing 6 games in 2023. I posted it in the players thread and it was poo pooed on here saying he played school boy footy but no one produced any thing to show he did.
The way I look at it 6 games in 2023 nothing last year he must have impressed big time in preseason to win the spot.



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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2025 11:08 am 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
aboynamedsue wrote:
Crusader wrote:
aboynamedsue wrote:
Heavs wrote:
While I don't disagree, didn't the young bloke miss pretty much all of last season with injury?

Yep, and I don’t think MC played the year before either (his draft year). Happy to be corrected, but I don’t think he’s played a fair dinkum game for 2 years. The clips from his underage year, and from this preseason, are impressive though.

So it’s a speculative selection - he won’t play senior footy in 2025, you wouldn’t think - but he is obviously resilient and talented.

I wonder if S.Durdin broke down again? Presumably we’re in the market for a mature age KPD, and you’d reckon being in our system for a couple of years would have been an advantage. Maybe they were seeing if he could get through the preseason before committing to him and his body failed him (again)?
Matt Carroll played a dozen games in 2023. School, Sandringham & Vic Metro.

Growth spurt, OP, whatever. They shut it down early last year & from the looks of him, he didn’t waste the time off his legs just sitting around.

Well done to him. :thumbsup:

Happy to be corrected about his 2023 season :thumbsup:
There was an article posted about him only playing 6 games in 2023. I posted it in the players thread and it was poo pooed on here saying he played school boy footy but no one produced any thing to show he did.
The way I look at it 6 games in 2023 nothing last year he must have impressed big time in preseason to win the spot.


Nonsense. You were clearly given links in the players thread that demonstrated he played 6 game for Sandringham and 3 for Vic metro. That 9 not including his St Kevins games.

https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/matt-carroll/

6 games Sandringham
3 games Vic metro. There's 9 games for starters.

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Congratulations to recent Year 12 graduate Matthew Carroll on being selected by Carlton with Pick 15 in yesterday's AFL Rookie Draft. Following a wonderful season for St Kevin's, Sandringham Dragons and Vic Metro, Matt took the Blues' fancy with his defensive work and speed. The selection is a wonderful moment not only for Matt but his family and friends who have supported his footballing journey to date. Good luck Matt for the years ahead.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2025 11:52 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
Maybe you are scarred by bad Lewis, and can't recall any good Lewis. He was OK early days. His confidence was totally shot around the so called wrath of Weitering.

We've sen him play with confidence. That's what I recall.


if all this wrath of Weiters gossip is factually based, frankly it’s a slight on Weiters’ leadership skills. heks in the elite leaders group for a reason. if he’s truely scarred a fellow bagger this bad then he needs to take steps to rectify the situation. apparently Nick Haynes and Weiters get on ok, or Haynes knows how to read the room better than Lewis Young.


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Hopefully it means he comes reasonably cheap

Because 5 years seems big to me

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I agree.
But I'm probably too biased to offer an honest reflection as I probably expect more than what he can deliver.
I can't remember a game where I thought "wow! Cerra burned up the opposition".

If this contract means Carlton miss out on De Koening...you just shake your head in wonder at the stupidity.
Now I have seen games where De Koening was a difference maker, none that I can remember from Cerra.


Different types of players in many ways. like saying Weiters hasn’t ever ripped a game wide open like Charlie has numerous times in the third quarter. Cerra (who just got autocorrected to Ferrari, lol i don’t think he’s a Ferrari type either) is Mr composure and Walshy was just saying Cerra much stronger in the contested ball situations that some people seem to realise because he so frequently finds the ball with time and space. we all recognise 2024 was a shit year for Cerra, please don’t grade him on 2024. he’s not like Cripps or Walshy at his peak in the 2023 finals and he’s not a Jagger Smith or Hewitt. but he brings value and with Ollie likely to play more of a HB-midfielder-transition role in 2025 it should free Cerra up to spend less time plugging holes in our leaky defence.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
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Decision time today, apparently.

Phillips has been my preference since December… but, if SOS works…

White has got a bit of zip & Frank the Tank could be a Powell-Pepper type. I think we’ve got better tricks already.

Nervous Nellies will have McMahon as a lay down misère, but I doubt Charlie’s knee will be a factor. Lemmey, Kemp, SOS (if it doesn’t work), a second ruck… I think we’re multiple disasters removed from being desperate for a key forward.

I’ve been dead against DGB, but he’s the right type. The piss n poo is a crap club, full of awful people… I can buy into the change of scenery argument.

I don’t think we’re the type of club to swoop on a bloke that has been training elsewhere.

Phillips or DGB for me.

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DGB out of the running apparently


Injured again?

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Crusader wrote:
Decision time today, apparently.

Phillips has been my preference since December… but, if SOS works…

White has got a bit of zip & Frank the Tank could be a Powell-Pepper type. I think we’ve got better tricks already.

Nervous Nellies will have McMahon as a lay down misère, but I doubt Charlie’s knee will be a factor. Lemmey, Kemp, SOS (if it doesn’t work), a second ruck… I think we’re multiple disasters removed from being desperate for a key forward.

I’ve been dead against DGB, but he’s the right type. The piss n poo is a crap club, full of awful people… I can buy into the change of scenery argument.

I don’t think we’re the type of club to swoop on a bloke that has been training elsewhere.

Phillips or DGB for me.


Yep.

Phillips for me. Leave the other spot open for mid season.

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My preference would have been to add to our KPD depth.

However, adding a small forward makes some sense. Durdin, Fantasia, Fogarty & Motlop are yet to prove their resilience.

Francis must be in the mix for round one selection, otherwise why pick a 26 year old?

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He's only 23 ABNS. I was hoping they'd select Liam McMahon. I think he could have been useful

Tho I suppose McMahon would have only been backup while Evans is a chance to play.

Evans played 17 games last year for Port including last 11 (incl 3 finals).

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sticksaftersiren87 wrote:
He's only 23 ABNS. I was hoping they'd select Liam McMahon. I think he could have been useful

Tho I suppose McMahon would have only been backup while Evans is a chance to play.

You’re right about his age. Not sure why I thought he was a couple of years older than he is. Anyway, I think it’s good that we’ve improved our small forward depth. Our list still looks short of one mature age KPD to me though.

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