We don’t like it when teams turn up the heat and it’s not on our terms. It’s simple.

Ugh... I had very similar discussion with my kids on the way home. I thought I'd come on here and see that I'm over reacting, but looks like we're all feeling the same.

It's hard straight after a loss cos no one ever looks good when you lose, I fear we're in genuine trouble. Only team we've beaten in a month is North and that was a struggle.

Midfield is [REDACTED]. I think Walsh is cooked. That back injury is going to curtail what was going to be a brilliant career. He's half the player he was and we need him to be.

What the hell is with Cerra? Game on the line not even enough to get him into the middle. If he can't play midfield, he shouldn't be playing.

Young. Fmd. Gave us nothing. Would have rathered give Lemmey a crack.

Cunningham. @#$%&!. Never ever again. Death taxes...

Pitto tries hard but he's a average. He got pantsed by Sweet in the second half.

Kemp. Olli. Owies. All do dumb shit week in week out.

The final piece of the puzzle is the coaches box. Try something when the game is slipping away from you. Throw the magnets around. Why the hell Gov wasn't given at least 10 minutes up forward, I'll never know. Second half all we had was a long bomb to Charlie who invariably got pushed under the ball by BZT and Aliir took the mark at the back.

Finally, @#$%&! the AFL. How the @#$%&! do you get scheduled Sunday night and follow up with Friday night. Couple that with the nonsense holding the ball rule, you just shake your head at what's coming down from the AFL. No wonder Gillon didn't want to hand over the reins to these halfwits

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A couple of years ago I recall we tried Cerra at half back for the first time, against st Kilda. And it didn't work, at all. We didn't learn our lesson.



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We haven’t been the same since we bought Cottrell straight back from his 7 weeks off.
This was the start of the end.

I think Walsh is OK physically, he's getting destroyed by the rule change

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Started the year with a heap of soft tissue injuries and now we are getting run over in the back half of games.

Really need to rectify this in the off season

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I think this is the next step we need to take as a side to be a real premiership winning side

We have taken a step by getting over the close games and winning them
We have taken a step by winning the games we should
We have taken a step by winning the games that we are the attacking force

Our next step, is to be able to take the heat when we become the hunted ...

It's no guarantee we can do that but feel that has been the story against gws, dogs and port. They just wanted the win more, desperate for the win, fighting tooth and nail
.. and we just haven't been able to match the intensity..

That's our next hurdle ..

Losing mckay / acres / tdk doesnt help but we must learn to be the side that can not only take the heat, but lift it to the next level when they came at us .. at the moment we.cant do it

Since the geelong game, it has been a mess..got ahead of ourselves as a club??

I'm more concerned about why we are not cleaning
up areas we have had all season to clean up.
Horne Francis was standing on his own at a D50 stoppage a few times. He missed the snap, but what are we training during the week? Why haven't we fixed this issue structurally?

Watching Kemp eating away at himself since the GWS game is also a hard watch and is affecting those around him.
His body language is horrible. He is all at sea and needs a long block of games in the VFL just to work on his mental preparation. His struggles are impacting those around him.

Would be nice if Cottrell could stick a tackle. He missed several important tackles last night. I really don't like the free ride he has been given. Ollie butchers the ball but also busts a gut.

Last night we saw what the team looked like without Jack SOS.
We needed his work rate hitting up and marking to get us out of our half. Once Charlie worked up the ground we just had nothing to kick to after that.

I am a pessimistic supporter and was pleasantly surprised we won two finals last year. Great outcome.

However, I think it papered over flaws in our list. Not sure why the club thinks this list has ghe missing pieces to finally win 17

Our midfield needs to be bolstered. Way too much reliance on Cripps and Walsh. With Cerra badly out of form, it further demonstrates a weakness in a key area of the field

It is so obvious we don’t have enough line breakers to create overlap run from our defensive 50

Kicking long to contests is never sustainable and we will never win the premiership playing like this

We have largely avoided Nathan Williamson all year but last night he paid us back in spades. flower horrible umpire.
The free against George nearly burst my blood vessels.
Than the free against Crippa instead of a HTB ruling in the last was the icing..

A few key players are banged up
Finally depth tested
We don’t move the ball quickly enough and get exposed when we don’t have it
We still rely way too much on the inside game

And our depth has been exposed as the season drags on.
The only players showing anything there are Wilson and Binns
How Binns wasn’t preferred to Cuningham makes little sense

We peaked at the right time last year
We haven’t done it right this year

Third marking tall in the forward line has been an issue for a while. Martin would be that player but can’t get on the park and is too inconsistent anyway. Don’t think SOS is the answer.

We have too many unreliable small forwards, which affects the balance of the forward line.

Pretty fortunate we have Curnow and McKay as it masks these issues to a degree.

i was lying in bed thinking about this last night. coming off the cats game (and GCS) i think that first qtr against the giants was where we peaked as a team. with this coaching, this list. we had peaked. at that point with fogerty, we'd won like 21 from 23 games and were flying. flag favourites of many and there was no real weakness in our game.


MC make a bunch of unneeded changes, structures changed, underdone players off medium term injuries ushered straight into the side. and we've been a shell of the team that skinnned the cats.

the only time i yelled or swore all night. he was away.

he's a complete baby giraffe out there. can't keep his feet. his hooves can't catch a ball. at that precise moment if i had the means to launch him from a cannon into space, i absolutely would have.

Port scored 44 points from stoppage; Carlton 15

Carlton 43 points from turnover, Port 29.

Last four weeks from stoppage conceded 70, 50, 44, 44

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these two things are it. not enough pace on the ball, and not enough players with actual speed in the list to take the game on. saad used to take the game on, but looks a step slower and also looks like he's been given instructions not to break lines and bend us out of our structure.

which is a shame. last season we won 9 onthe trot playing with risk and adventure and backing ourselves. this year, coaching seems to have put a pin in all of that.

... and instead kicking long to contests where we have a dearth of crumbers to hit those packs when the ball inevitably hits the ground and is in contest.


all roads here point to the coaches box, and our list deficiencies. we're hard against the cap, and we have to look at moving some pieces out, to get something back this off season.

need a KPD, some speed on all lines really but especially a mid, and a creative high iq small forward who can play the eddie role.

a real worry. as someone pointed out, the hyphen was running around unmarked, and unchecked at stoppages in the 3rd & 4th and kicked a goal and had another couple score involvements.


i'm a broken record. but what are we training into these guys during the week?



* hello, is this thing on etc

Centre clearances 13-6 Port's way.

Stating the obvious but not having one of TDK or Harry to partner Charlie and at least bring the ball to ground was a massive loss.

Carlton 7 tackles inside 50 for the game; Port 17.

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All starts from the midfield.

We are getting smashed from centre bounces and stoppages in general. This is obvious just from the eye test. Have to play from the back half and we are on the back foot way too much. And then we can’t move the ball with any purpose.

Can’t defend a D50 stoppage if our life depended on it.

Other than Cripps, we have no midfielder in form. Walsh is struggling and even George last night was fumbly.

We have fallen away so badly it’s hard to believe or fathom.

Last year it all turned qtr time against GC at the G. This year it’s qtr time against GWS away. Only the opposite

Have no faith or confidence we’ll get back on track.

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We are on our way back...

North showed Port how to beat Carlton.
The crying from this site when we play 3 big blokes forward is something to behold but GWS Bulldogs North and now Port have all done this and we have been exposed badly.
Port didn't have any problems locking the ball in their half of the ground despite playing 3 talls in forward line.
But they managed to waltz out of our forward 50 with a plethora of small forwards up there.
Last night proved you need 3 targets inside 50.
We went with 1 and a bloke scared of his own shadow.

Watch with interest who Collingwood select next week

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