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Blue Vain

Post subject: Re: R4: Gold Coast v Carlton (Pre Match Discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:41 am

Stephen Kernahan

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:35 am
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Crusader wrote:

Paddycripps wrote:

Is there room for taggers still?

No. Not since the raft of rule changes to remove them from the game.

They can’t fight through blocks. They can’t even put an arm across these days.

It’s a pointless tactic.

Mark O'Connor at Geelong?
Coaches votes in his past 2 games playing as a midfield tagger and easily subduing his highly rated opponents. There's still a critical role for it.
It's the stubborn thought processes of ignorant or closed minded coaches that are the impediment.

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17th Premiership

Post subject: R4: Gold Coast v Carlton (Pre Match Discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:45 am

Rod Ashman

Joined: Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:22 am
Posts: 2742

Sheesh, whatever happened to naming the team on Thu evenings?

Anyway, kind of similar to last week: a must win game that won’t tell us a whole lot about where we are at if we win but will do if we lose.

We must win this and then perform well against the better teams. Esp those rated 5-12.

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Asp

Post subject: Re: R4: Gold Coast v Carlton (Pre Match Discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:50 am

Serge Silvagni

Joined: Wed May 10, 2006 10:26 am
Posts: 931

Sidefx wrote:

17th Premiership wrote:

I’m also intrigued about giving Dow a tagging role, or at least a super-accountable role, on a prolific midfielder.
This could well teach him more about how to get to the ball more often and with more effect. Could be good...

Many good midfielders have been taught the craft tagging older better players.
A good test for him will be tagging a younger better player.

They are all better players. After 4 years the number 3 or 4 pick (whatever it was) needs a younger player to show him where the ball is ??? Chris Judd was winning Brownlows. Get him to follow Sam Walsh around like a sheep. He will show him where the ball is and even how to use it.

Last edited by Asp on Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:59 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Blue Vain

Post subject: Re: R4: Gold Coast v Carlton (Pre Match Discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:41 am

Stephen Kernahan

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:35 am
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Of our 16 centre clearances last week, Cripps had 7. Hopefully he's up and about again this week.

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famousblueraincoat

Post subject: Re: R4: Gold Coast v Carlton (Pre Match Discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:47 am

Harry Vallence

Joined: Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:30 pm
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I've picked Carlton in our office tipping comp. I'd like to think emotion was not part of this decision.

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SurreyBlue

Post subject: Re: R4: Gold Coast v Carlton (Pre Match Discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:18 am

Ken Hunter

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:32 am
Posts: 10483

Humpers wrote:

I wonder who might come in if Saad doesn't play? Maybe move Williams to half back and Setterfield on the ball. Cottrell remains on the wing.

I don't think Saad will get up for the game. My bet is Williamson comes back in, as the coaches where happy with his VFL game.

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Teddy Hopkins

Post subject: Re: R4: Gold Coast v Carlton (Pre Match Discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 12:22 pm

Geoff Southby

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SurreyBlue wrote:

Humpers wrote:

I wonder who might come in if Saad doesn't play? Maybe move Williams to half back and Setterfield on the ball. Cottrell remains on the wing.

I don't think Saad will get up for the game. My bet is Williamson comes back in, as the coaches where happy with his VFL game.

Stocker please. Tough, run and carry.

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17th Premiership

Post subject: Re: R4: Gold Coast v Carlton (Pre Match Discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 12:37 pm

Rod Ashman

Joined: Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:22 am
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Yes, surely if Saad doesn't play it is the right time to give Stocker the opportunity?
Even if they want to bring him in as a mid, we could shift things around a bit to give him ample opportunity in the mid with a bit of rotation through the back half?

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Asp

Post subject: Re: R4: Gold Coast v Carlton (Pre Match Discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:55 pm

Serge Silvagni

Joined: Wed May 10, 2006 10:26 am
Posts: 931

Sidefx wrote:

Effes wrote:

Witts out for the year.

No Rowell or Day.

All other GC rucks injured.

This makes me think, should we play a tall side and play a high possession style game kicking to the talls?
Plus I'd really like to see Dow tagging Anderson, this could be a great match up and provide a lot of answers.

Anderson BOG

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Asp

Post subject: Re: R4: Gold Coast v Carlton (Pre Match Discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:57 pm

Serge Silvagni

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17th Premiership wrote:

Yes - good call

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Big Kahuna Boot

Post subject: Re: R4: Gold Coast v Carlton (Pre Match Discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:03 pm

Ken Hunter

Joined: Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:54 pm
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Asp wrote:

Sidefx wrote:

17th Premiership wrote:

..Judd and Walsh are so far above the pack it's not funny.... ..using them as the standard is both unrealistic and unfair....

..also the ongoing issue with our young drafted mids is the lack of experience and protection they get.. ....most teams have had a solid or better midfield core to introduce young players into.. ....ours are expected to slot into the midfield group and share the heavy lifting..
:thumbsup:

Many good midfielders have been taught the craft tagging older better players.
A good test for him will be tagging a younger better player.

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Juddy&theKruezers

Post subject: Re: R4: Gold Coast v Carlton (Pre Match Discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:17 pm

Mike Fitzpatrick

Joined: Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:12 pm
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Looks like Williams will miss ...

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sinbagger

Post subject: R4: Gold Coast v Carlton (Pre Match Discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:28 pm

John Nicholls

Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:18 pm
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Juddy&theKruezers wrote:

Looks like Williams will miss ...

Let’s see what Stocker can do then, or Kennedy if Stocker needs more time

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Juddy&theKruezers

Post subject: Re: R4: Gold Coast v Carlton (Pre Match Discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:29 pm

Mike Fitzpatrick

Joined: Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:12 pm
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sinbagger wrote:

Juddy&theKruezers wrote:

Looks like Williams will miss ...

Let’s see what Stocker can do then, or Kennedy if Stocker needs more time

Setterfield the in

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Sydney Blue

Post subject: R4: Gold Coast v Carlton (Pre Match Discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:39 pm

Alex Jesaulenko

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Location: North of the border

Williams out
Setterfield in

Expecting Saad to miss

Emergency Stocker Williamson Owies Kennedy

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frank dardew

Post subject: Re: R4: Gold Coast v Carlton (Pre Match Discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:00 pm

Craig Bradley

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:38 pm
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Injuries killing us :banghead:

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azzablue

Post subject: Re: R4: Gold Coast v Carlton (Pre Match Discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:01 pm

Harry Vallence

Joined: Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:23 am
Posts: 1566

They are saying calf tightness , which would be a impact form the ankle being sore

So why did they bring him back onto the ground??

Surely this is the final year of Andrew complete failure Russell !!

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Crusader

Post subject: Re: R4: Gold Coast v Carlton (Pre Match Discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:01 pm

Craig Bradley

Joined: Tue Jun 28, 2005 4:04 pm
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Location: Bendigo

Their half back line is averaging near-enough 30 marks a game.

Maybe a reflection of the pressure they’ve been under, but they’re obviously well structured.

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Cazzesman

Post subject: Re: R4: Gold Coast v Carlton (Pre Match Discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:28 pm

Stephen Kernahan

Joined: Sun Feb 27, 2005 3:08 pm
Posts: 16808
Location: Melbourne

Blues by 26 points.

Play our game on our terms; except - Cottrell can run all day, so stick fat on Anderson if he is on the wing. Get physical with Lukosius as he's not a fan of the close stuff.

Pittonet will not have a better chance to give the boys the type of armchair ride the Eagles onballers get. Don't @#$% it up!

I will be severely frustrated (read gutted) if we lose this one.

Regards Cazzesman

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Walsh

Post subject: Re: R4: Gold Coast v Carlton (Pre Match Discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:51 pm

Banned

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Have the potential to physically monster them tbh on every line.

Need to get something out of this game we have Port next week and taking them on with tails up will help. Its high time to take a winners mentality into every match and it starts now.

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