R8: Carlton Vs Collingwood (Post match discussion)

Navy Blue Horse · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:39 pm **Posts:** 15848

keogh wrote:

Beaten by a better team
Effort was there by most
SOS has recruited too many blokes who don’t move the ball
quickly enough SOJ kink kernas poster boy being one of them
Tries hard good footy brain that’s about it

Setterfield a bust
Mc Govern 3 goals but doesn’t do enough
Not worth 3 players in the draft

Play Gibbons in the middle please

Our best player was Cunningham
He is a beautiful kick with pace
It doesn’t look like a grind when he has the ball

Too many slow average players

Like Stocker
If we can jag a good player with pick 13 ish in this years draft
Will be the only good thing to come out of 2018 draft

Setterfield a bust. You delusional fool. Sad, miserable man.

Navy One · **Posted:** Sat May 11, 2019 8:19 pm

Collingwood must be kicking themselves .... With a bit more discipline they could have kept Carlton to zero free kicks

doofdoof · **Joined:** Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:54 pm **Posts:** 2251

Navy Blue Horse wrote:

keogh wrote:

Beaten by a better team
Effort was there by most
SOS has recruited too many blokes who don’t move the ball
quickly enough SOJ kink kernas poster boy being one of them
Tries hard good footy brain that’s about it

Setterfield a bust
Mc Govern 3 goals but doesn’t do enough
Not worth 3 players in the draft

Play Gibbons in the middle please

Our best player was Cunningham
He is a beautiful kick with pace
It doesn’t look like a grind when he has the ball

Too many slow average players

Like Stocker
If we can jag a good player with pick 13 ish in this years draft
Will be the only good thing to come out of 2018 draft

Setterfield a bust. You delusional fool. Sad, miserable man.

you missed his best point...stocker will be the only good thing to come out of the 2018 draft
sam walsh says hi keogh....

kingkerna · **Posted:** Sat May 11, 2019 8:28 pm

Navy Blue Horse wrote:

keogh wrote:

Beaten by a better team
Effort was there by most
SOS has recruited too many blokes who don’t move the ball
quickly enough SOJ kink kernas poster boy being one of them
Tries hard good footy brain that’s about it

Setterfield a bust
Mc Govern 3 goals but doesn’t do enough
Not worth 3 players in the draft

Play Gibbons in the middle please

Our best player was Cunningham
He is a beautiful kick with pace
It doesn’t look like a grind when he has the ball

Too many slow average players

Like Stocker
If we can jag a good player with pick 13 ish in this years draft
Will be the only good thing to come out of 2018 draft

Setterfield a bust. You delusional fool. Sad, miserable man.

He's a special one.

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McConville33 · **Joined:** Sun Oct 07, 2007 9:58 pm **Posts:** 78

keogh wrote:

Beaten by a better team
Effort was there by most
SOS has recruited too many blokes who don’t move the ball
quickly enough SOJ kink kernas poster boy being one of them
Tries hard good footy brain that’s about it

Setterfield a bust
Mc Govern 3 goals but doesn’t do enough
Not worth 3 players in the draft

Play Gibbons in the middle please

Our best player was Cunningham
He is a beautiful kick with pace
It doesn’t look like a grind when he has the ball

Too many slow average players

Like Stocker
If we can jag a good player with pick 13 ish in this years draft
Will be the only good thing to come out of 2018 draft

My 20 cents -

Today Collingwood was the better side. The inside 50 count doesn't lie.

There were some very questionable decisions but not as many as espoused on this forum. The club would be remiss not to seek clarification, though given that the AFL doesnt mind players climbing posts, I doubt that we will be satisfied!

SOS seems to be teflon coated. All pressure goes onto the coach yet SOS hasn't jagged a jet from left field after four drafts (?).
Something like Cripps at 13, Simpson at 45 or James Harmes as a rookie would be nice.
To continually pick GWS players who cannot get a game at GWS is either arrogant or naive. Jarrod Pickett and Will Setterfield are not number 4 draft picks.

The knocks on Marc Murphy here are just wrong. He is still easily in the club's top 10.

The over rating of our myriad of our average players isn't for me.
Williamson, Macreadie, Plowman, O'Brien and Cuningham are average players though the last has pace but cannot kick sorry. They, like Levi, are at best steak knives.

bender · **Posted:** Sat May 11, 2019 8:33 pm

keogh wrote:

Beaten by a better team
Effort was there by most
SOS has recruited too many blokes who don’t move the ball
quickly enough SOJ kink kernas poster boy being one of them
Tries hard good footy brain that’s about it

Setterfield a bust
Mc Govern 3 goals but doesn’t do enough
Not worth 3 players in the draft

Play Gibbons in the middle please

Our best player was Cunningham
He is a beautiful kick with pace
It doesn’t look like a grind when he has the ball

Too many slow average players

Like Stocker
If we can jag a good player with pick 13 ish in this years draft
Will be the only good thing to come out of 2018 draft

seriously dude?????

how many games have you played at the top level having done a knee????? if he hasnt improved by seasons end, yes, but after 5 games, stop being so bloody-minded and negative

keogh · **Joined:** Fri Jul 29, 2005 6:36 am **Posts:** 6321

Navy Blue Horse wrote:

keogh wrote:

Beaten by a better team
Effort was there by most
SOS has recruited too many blokes who don’t move the ball
quickly enough SOJ kink kernas poster boy being one of them
Tries hard good footy brain that’s about it

Setterfield a bust
Mc Govern 3 goals but doesn’t do enough
Not worth 3 players in the draft

Play Gibbons in the middle please

Our best player was Cunningham
He is a beautiful kick with pace
It doesn’t look like a grind when he has the ball

Too many slow average players

Like Stocker
If we can jag a good player with pick 13 ish in this years draft
Will be the only good thing to come out of 2018 draft

Setterfield a bust. You delusional fool. Sad, miserable man.

What do you like about him

camel · **Posted:** Sat May 11, 2019 8:41 pm

GWS wrote:

We need to recruit some cauliflower.

We had a couple.

Sent one to Richmond, the other to the Lions.

camel · **Posted:** Sat May 11, 2019 8:43 pm

MPH78 wrote:

26 I50’s to 5 in the last qtr. Thats the game.

That's a fair stat. And very telling. On the positive side we were relativly effective when we went inside 50, haha.

But, here's a season-long observation I've made elsewhere…

Free kicks for and against in percentage terms

Bulldogs | 170 | 126 | 135%
Collingwood | 171 | 134 | 128%
Geelong | 127 | 110 | 115%
Adelaide | 122 | 111 | 110%
Brisbane | 183 | 168 | 109%
North | 144 | 131 | 108%
Fremantle | 110 | 110 | 100%
Gold Coast | 144 | 139 | 104%
St Kilda | 138 | 141 | 98%
Eagles | 133 | 138 | 96%
Giants | 125 | 131 | 95%
Melbourne | 152 | 166 | 92%
Swans | 150 | 165 | 91%
Richmond | 127 | 140 | 91%
Hawthorn | 116 | 128 90%
Essendon* | 149 | 165 | 90%
Port | 133 | 155 | 86%
Carlton | 126 | 162 | 78%

Correct at time of posting.
Source: https://www.afl.com.au/stats/stats-pro#/

Now, I know sooking about free kicks is poor form, but WTF is that?! :fight:

Navy Blue Horse · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:39 pm **Posts:** 15848

keogh wrote:

Navy Blue Horse wrote:

keogh wrote:

Beaten by a better team
Effort was there by most
SOS has recruited too many blokes who don’t move the ball
quickly enough SOJ kink kernas poster boy being one of them
Tries hard good footy brain that’s about it

Setterfield a bust
Mc Govern 3 goals but doesn’t do enough
Not worth 3 players in the draft

Play Gibbons in the middle please

Our best player was Cunningham
He is a beautiful kick with pace
It doesn’t look like a grind when he has the ball

Too many slow average players

Like Stocker
If we can jag a good player with pick 13 ish in this years draft
Will be the only good thing to come out of 2018 draft

Setterfield a bust. You delusional fool. Sad, miserable man.

What do you like about him

he's played 6 games of afl. 6! coming back from a knee reco.

he ain't Sam Walsh, nor is he polson or gallucci.

99prelim · **Joined:** Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:01 pm **Posts:** 3561

camelboy wrote:

MPH78 wrote:

26 I50’s to 5 in the last qtr. Thats the game.

That's a fair stat. And very telling. On the positive side we were relativly effective when we went inside 50, haha.

But, here's a season-long observation I've made elsewhere…

Free kicks for and against in percentage terms

Bulldogs | 170 | 126 | 135%
Collingwood | 171 | 134 | 128%
Geelong | 127 | 110 | 115%
Adelaide | 122 | 111 | 110%
Brisbane | 183 | 168 | 109%
North | 144 | 131 | 108%
Fremantle | 110 | 110 | 100%
Gold Coast | 144 | 139 | 104%
St Kilda | 138 | 141 | 98%
Eagles | 133 | 138 | 96%
Giants | 125 | 131 | 95%
Melbourne | 152 | 166 | 92%
Swans | 150 | 165 | 91%
Richmond | 127 | 140 | 91%
Hawthorn | 116 | 128 90%
Essendon** | 149 | 165 | 90%
Port | 133 | 155 | 86%
Carlton | 126 | 162 | 78%

Correct at time of posting.
Source: https://www.afl.com.au/stats/stats-pro#/

Now, I know sooking about free kicks is poor form, but WTF is that?! :fight:

Some team will have to be last. Could also be that we are least skilled, panic more and give away more
I prefer to look at case by case
There were 4 clear ones to me today that resulted in 2 goals to Coll and denied us a goal 20m out when Curnow got his arms chopped

Rod Waddell · **Joined:** Thu Apr 28, 2005 10:49 am **Posts:** 1650

Pros:
Our captain......yet again
Fisher early on relished the challenge-did he get injured during the game?
Cunningham showed some poise. He’s physically stronger of the young ones
JSOS battled well. He will never be a speedster but should continue to build his stamina
The much maligned Levi got his matchup and did well. The trick is to do well when the matchup is not ideal
Happy with Stocker’s second taste of the big league and Willo getting through another game
Not a bad crowd. A better performance last week against North and we may have had another 5-10000 in through the turnstiles.

Cons:
Thought SPS may have contributed more after all he has played 50 games. Really need him contributing 1-2 goals a game
Inability to close out games. Can we make the games a scrap or slow it down when teams come at us or we need to hold a lead?
Umpiring inconsistency. Notwithstanding the lopsided frees it’s the ones that aren’t paid to us but paid to the opposition that’s frustrating.

kezza · **Joined:** Thu May 11, 2006 6:11 pm **Posts:** 14938

Rod Waddell wrote:

Pros:
Our captain......yet again
Fisher early on relished the challenge-did he get injured during the game?
Cunningham showed some poise. He’s physically stronger of the young ones
JSOS battled well. He will never be a speedster but should continue to build his stamina
The much maligned Levi got his matchup and did well. The trick is to do well when the matchup is not ideal
Happy with Stocker’s second taste of the big league and Willo getting through another game
Not a bad crowd. A better performance last week against North and we may have had another 5-10000 in through the turnstiles.

Cons:
Thought SPS may have contributed more after all he has played 50 games. Really need him contributing 1-2 goals a game
Inability to close out games. Can we make the games a scrap or slow it down when teams come at us or we need to hold a lead?
Umpiring inconsistency. Notwithstanding the lopsided frees it’s the ones that aren’t paid to us but paid to the opposition that’s frustrating.

Fisher rolled his ankle I think. He tried to run it out but did come off for treatment. I sit right near the interchange and he was in the hands of the medicos for a short time. I don't think it was too bad.

Donstuie · **Posted:** Sat May 11, 2019 9:25 pm

One positive from today, and it came from seeing Cripps’ reaction and hearing that he took over the post-game debrief.

I got the sense that this one genuinely hurt the players, and hope Cripps was the one to pull any heads out of any “near enough is good enough” stupor and give a dose of reality.

A reality that they have it within them to match it with the top teams, but that they need to will themselves to reach that next level like he has, and these fadeouts can’t be tolerated anymore regardless of the opposition. Maybe today the message finally got through.

Or maybe I’m just a dreamer.

CFC8795 · **Posted:** Sat May 11, 2019 9:29 pm

Or maybe I’m just a dreamer.

Aren’t we all at times :smoking:

famousblueraincoat · **Posted:** Sat May 11, 2019 9:34 pm

We got a couple of goals in front in the last, then we stopped attacking.. the old stop, hold it up and look sideways. I said that's it, we are done. Then the ball went down the Collingwood end and never really came out. end of ball game.

Blue Vain · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:35 am **Posts:** 17951

McConville33 wrote:

The over rating of our myriad of our average players isn't for me.
Williamson, Macreadie, Plowman, O'Brien and Cuningham are average players though the last has pace but cannot kick sorry.

Cuningham can't kick? :lol:

I'm sure some posters are competing to see who can post the most ridiculous comments. David Cuningham would be in the top 3 technically correct kicks at the club.
Did you happen to see his set shot from the boundary today. Surely I've time travelled back to the first of April again. Or is this one of those hidden camera shows? :sly:

Crippa · **Joined:** Sun May 31, 2015 8:24 pm **Posts:** 829

Blue Vain wrote:

McConville33 wrote:

The over rating of our myriad of our average players isn't for me.
Williamson, Macreadie, Plowman, O'Brien and Cuningham are average players though the last has pace but cannot kick sorry.

Cuningham can't kick? :lol:

I'm sure some posters are competing to see who can post the most ridiculous comments. David Cuningham would be in the top 3 technically correct kicks at the club.
Did you happen to see his set shot from the boundary today. Surely I've time travelled back to the first of April again. Or is this one of those hidden camera shows? :sly:

Crippa · **Joined:** Sun May 31, 2015 8:24 pm **Posts:** 829

doofdoof wrote:

Navy Blue Horse wrote:

keogh wrote:

Beaten by a better team
Effort was there by most
SOS has recruited too many blokes who don’t move the ball
quickly enough SOJ kink kernas poster boy being one of them
Tries hard good footy brain that’s about it

Setterfield a bust
Mc Govern 3 goals but doesn’t do enough
Not worth 3 players in the draft

Play Gibbons in the middle please

Our best player was Cunningham
He is a beautiful kick with pace
It doesn’t look like a grind when he has the ball

Too many slow average players

Like Stocker
If we can jag a good player with pick 13 ish in this years draft
Will be the only good thing to come out of 2018 draft

Setterfield a bust. You delusional fool. Sad, miserable man.

you missed his best point...stocker will be the only good thing to come out of the 2018 draft
sam walsh says hi keogh....

Yeah and the Gov with his 3 goals, 4 tackles, 6 score involvements and 100% disposal efficiency “doesn’t do enough” :roll:

Sydney Blue · **Posted:** Sat May 11, 2019 10:21 pm

When you get that far in it's not about talent any more or structure or set ups, it's about who wants to win most, and it was us.

Nathan Buckley 11/5/19

We don't know how to win
We have been told it doesn't matter if we win
And we won't be judged on wins and losses

Buckley could see his players wanted to win more.

Winning needs to become the be all and end all.

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