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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:01 am 
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As for our top pick in Harry Mckay, i been very disappointed with his return so far. He looked very slow and has no second efforts. He is way off being ready, I hope that he takes his time to develop over the years. Charlie Currnow looks ahead of him already!!


Considering he missed about 10 weeks with stress fractures in his back, I'm amazed you thought he'd be anywhere near ready.
Stress fractures in your back are not like a shoulder of leg injury. If you have a bad shoulder, you can still do leg work. If you have a leg injury, you can still do upper body.
With a back you can't do anything. We won't get anything from Harry until next year. I'm just glad to see him back out there without a recurrence.




Maybe we could call in Dennis Lillee to give Harry McKay a few pointers on the work needed to recovery from back stress fractures :wink:

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:04 am 
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I'll be there, hoping that Bolton's second game in Queensland can show a marked change in the 'holiday mode' the boys have been in up here for many years now.

A winnable game if we come out hungry rather than merely matching Brisbane's patchy form with our own. A game which will be easy to lose also.

Come on boys, give me something up here FFS


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:07 am 
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jim wrote:

Yes, we could do without one ruckmen but at least when we picked two key forwards last time, even with 2 rucks, we started our winning run, then improving out of sight when Phillips got injured. At least poor old Casboult has some help and can now get further up the ground taking some defenders with him. Should help open up the 50 more.


Are you sure we improved "out of sight"?

Prior to injury, with Philips we WON v Freo and WON v Essendon* (when Philips kicked the winning goal)

Post inury to Philips, we replaced him with Gorringe and we WON v Coll, WON v Port, Thrashed by NM, WON v Geel.

Then Philips returned to the team and we WON v Brisbane by our biggest margin of the year.

I think you are starting to exaggerate the situation to make your point stick.
I think our wins have more to do with how the team was going, the momentum and spirit generated by the whole, moreson than the 2 rucks imo.

I don't buy your hypothesis jim about the 2 rucks, nor jimmae's about Kreuzer.

Personally I think you take out too much from the one good game Kreuzer played in that period against Geelong.

Kreuzer's output doubles when he is the lone ruckman, but they are still low numbers other than the Geelong game.
Kreuzer is no standout imo, and no way can he ruck for 4 quarters, nor can Philips.
Rowe needs to man up the KPF beasts and Casboult is our No. 1, and at times the only KPF albeit playing under an injury cloud.

There's good reason why Bolton, like other teams, play 2 ruckmen. You have to understand why and accept that.
I too would like to see 2 KPF's in the Carlton forwardline: Josh Kennedy and Josh Jenkins would be nice.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:11 am 
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Really glad to see Cuningham selected.
Graham seems too slow for this caper

Jones deserves his call up too.
He will be an improvement on the 'cooked' Walker.

Come on Blues.

We want a win up there.

Last year was a huge let down at the Gabba, and embarrassing for all Carltonians who travelled there for the game.

Blues by 10 goals.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:38 am 
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Jones has earned another shot in the big league.
It would be a scandal if Jakcsh was selected ahead of Jones, on exposed form.

I didn't really expect McKay to play seniors this year even before he was injured - I don't think his brother has played AFL yet? (And he showed something against us a few weeks ago...).
They were both bottom age, string-bean, KP draftees - very rare for any of these categories to debut in 1st year, let alone someone who fits all of them. Plus a major back injury.
I think, for McKay, this year is all about building the body a bit and getting an understanding of what it will take to succeed - and then working on that over summer.

There are 3 matches left to play. I dont see much point in resting Weitering up now, unless he is actually injured (Vs a bit sore). The value for his confidence and team leadership of Weitering 'enduring' through a whole season outweighs the potential benefit from taking a week off so he can play a bit better in the last two weeks.

I would love to win at least 2 of the last 3 games and finish off the season with a bit of momentum. 8 wins will be viewed as a great start to our climb back up. 9 wins, amazing.
(And it will be telling if we cant find a way to win at least 2 of the last 3....)


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:10 am 
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:06 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Really glad to see Cuningham selected.


Last year was a huge let down at the Gabba, and embarrassing for all Carltonians who travelled there for the game.

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QFT. You bet it was , I flew down from Darwin and it was embarrassing, particularly with Robbo dominating. Flying down again tonight and hope to see a much improved performance tomorrow.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:20 pm 
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Not too many changes from last week. Still, we should bounce back from it and get a win up there (a bit of revenge for 2015 to the Lions then).
Just as long as we don't lose steam for the critical game in 2 weeks time; if Essendon* end up winning and avoiding the spoon it'll be talked about forever in the history books and never forgotten by Essendon* supporters in their lifetime. I know I wouldn't if I was a supporter of them.
The champagne will be on hold for the time being here.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 11:10 am 
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Dodo27 wrote:
I have watched and attended the last few VFL games and I don't think Cunningham is anywhere near AFL level.

I am also surprised that Rainbow Jojo or Jojo Rainbow has not been given ago. He is very skillful, deadly left foot and gets plenty of it.

Jones took some unreal contested marks last Week... Deserves the call up, however he has left it way too late. He is a goner...

As for our top pick in Harry Mckay, i been very disappointed with his return so far. He looked very slow and has no second efforts. He is way off being ready, I hope that he takes his time to develop over the years. Charlie Currnow looks ahead of him already!!


Didn't Harry kick 5 goals in his first two games back? The got beaten by Lachie Hansom when delivery to the forward line was shite too? And then only played 15 minutes last week.... But harsh me thinks. I'll make my judgement after he's played 10 - 30 in the navy blue, although I'd probably get a good idea in the first few games.


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