At least we didn't get beat by 138 points

yes Rexy only problem is that if we put up that effort again the team that got beaten by 138 points will beat us - YESTERDAY was deplorable and as bad as some of the bad performances of the malthouse era - we should be past that and no excuses players now have coach and system they respect show it and surely professional pride kicks in - the dropping of the heads after the AINTS got 5 goals up yesterday was terrible

By the way my last post hopefully wasn't seen as in any way an attack on Andrew Walker who is a fine and loyal servant - to play 200 games means that you are a good player who stood the test of time

We on this site don't truly honour our good servants over the year have bagged unmercifully at times houlihan whitnall and now walker just to name a few - all not out and out champions but if you play 200 games in this competition you are more than an average footballer - you have played in excess of 10 seasons and performed well in this brutal - some need to get a grip

To add

The GWS guys we have got haven't been great
Plowman is slow lacks penetration in his kicking. Tries but lacks the tools to be a really good player at AFL level
The only bloke who might become an important cog in the wheel is Phillips. Needs a stronger upper body but has the tools to be a solid number one ruckman
Kreuzer is shot and Casboult looks better up the ground and as a second ruckman
The club shouldn't play sentiment and just play Phillips and Casboult next year
Painfully slow today
We must recruit well next year with kids
Silvangi Weitering Charlie Curnow look the goods
Hopefully McKay and Cunningham can come through
No high priced recruits for draft picks or guys who can't make it at other clubs in the draft
St kilda and Melbourne are the model we need to look to

And the way the modern game is played these days with teams within teams it was interesting to see very little change in where players played after halftime yesterday
Being 42 points down you would think of trying different things to put doubt in the opponents mind
Tuohy Simpson on the ball
Casboult in defence
Docherty in the forward line

Basically footy is so structured now that coaches are more reluctant to try stuff outside the box

Nice to get some vitamin d yesterday
Hope the club is patient
Don't want some 22 year old from the Gold Coast

Might have something to do with it being his first full season after missing 10 weeks of the preseason due to hip surgery. Have a look at Docherty's second half of last year when he needed hip surgery. Went OK, but nothing like the 2016 form we've seen.

After Round 5 you said you "loved Plowman", now he's not even AFL standard. Seems the same people that keep saying we shouldn't be chasing a "quick fix", are the ones getting frustrated that everything hasn't been "fixed quickly"....

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good points & should add plowman only played 2 games last year. he's been solid this year even if yesterday's game was below par. we're quick to write off reasonably talented 21 year olds with only 36 games to their names on this site. look forward to seeing how he goes after a full pre season & the confidence he should take into 2017 from having played at AFL level for most of 2016.

We were getting this week in week out for years. This is the first time this year we've had such a bad one. (yes there have been 10 goal losses) This year has still been a massive improvement and better than I expected. Charlie hasn't played much and we still haven't seen McKay at senior level. The reset is going well in the first year of three. We all feel the pain of a loss like this but credit to the boys, they've put in this year

Keogh of old returns!

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dane's trolling again

dane's trolling again

Our defense and intensity was way off. Easily the worst game all year. I don't think we are that bad.
Not as good as the saints but not 10 goals worse. They are a few years ahead with their rebuild.

Maybe naming Walker for a farewell game when he really didn't deserve a game (it had to be done though) was something that set the tone. Who knows.

The ease we let them cruise through the middle was there right from the start. Our much spoken about team defense was non existent.

Richardson also knows how to undo our game plan. How quickly they string 2 or 3 posessions together once they have won the ball really throws us and opens up the game for them.

Hopefully we get better efforts for the next 3 games then start an 88 game rebuild at seasons end.

Our lack of defence didn't nearly scare me as much as our lack of method and execution when we had the ball

Carlton recruitment department, along with the influence of lame coaches haven't avoided anything. They just haven't had a clue.

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

Bruce and Membrey from GWS and Swans. Bruce for pick 29 and Membrey for a pick in the 20's or 30's.

We targeted GWS and got Jaksch for pick 7, and Dick from Swans as a DFA.

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

Bruce and Membrey are at best slightly above average and will feast on poor defensive efforts.

Membrey is averaging 5 goals per game against us in 2016.

They might not be superstars but they are better then slightly above average Membrey is 11 in the AFL in goals and Bruce is going to back up a 50 goal season with 40 goals surely that's above average to good???

People can change their opinions
That's why the divorce rates at 50%

How many good games till you're back on the Plow?

But that would be like remarrying the ex.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Was just thinking, what would we do differently if we had to play them again tomorrow (if a win really mattered)?

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THEY LIKE TO SEND UP!!!!!!!!

Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.

Be prepared to run defensively if tey switch play ? Just one thing that may save...Maybe 5 goals!

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“Every single element of the Club has to be the best in the league, meticulously and methodically, and only by doing this will we be elite and challenge for number 17.”
Greg Lee

Would we ba allowed to pick a different team as well?

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Let slip the Blues of war (with apologies to William Shakespeare) (and Sir Francis Bacon, just in case)