was Barker there?

Melbourne had their B&F last Friday and Hogan finished 4th after Vince, Viney and McDonald. He was lucky the Rising Star voting panel was stacked with old KPP. Paul Roos said if you're not going to give it to a key forward this year when are you going to give it? I say if you're not going to give it to someone that won his club's B&F in his first full year then when are you going to give it? Hogan must be jealous of Cripps now. He did speak well on AFL360 after the win though. Well done Crippa.

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Quick aknowledgement to the recruiting team who selected Cripps.

We have all bagged them as the worst recruiting team in the comp for the past 15yrs nod especially so when they picked Cripps (who no one else was talking about as a first rounder) and Boekhorst, ahead of Leverdeand others (when no one else would have selected Boekhorst in 1st round).

However, they have been proved absolutely right with Cripps. The has to be acknowledged as a conscious decision; better than the Fyfe pick which I feel Freo just got lucky on.

So, congrats to the team for having the foresight and balls to pick Cripps. You got at least one spot on.

Freo had Fyfe ranked as the 5th best player in that draft, they rated Morabito higher and picked him at 4. Harvey was stoked he was still around at 20 and said watch this kid go, he'll be special. So no they didn't get lucky as such, just lucky no one else picked him. But no one had Crippa ranked higher than we did so it's a great get. Love watching him play, when the whips are cracking he takes the rest of the team with him, not many can do that and I'm struggling to remember one that has done it in their first full season. He's already my Favorite player.

He had me at hello.

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You're right - and I think the decision to recruit BB may have been due to knowing how good Crippa is going to be and the type of player. If they say that kids like Cripps are those that you build great midfields around, BB, Wiley, Holman, Tutt etc are all integral pieces of the puzzle.

I think the recruiting dept, overall, have done a great job in the last 3 drafts.

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I don't think that's accurate.

I think most posters said that the Rogers team did a reasonable job on the top picks, although there were doubts over the capability of Rogers due to his part in the Hughes years.

Boekhurst is still a work in progress... who knows.

Most people acknowledge that Cripps had huge upside, despite being slightly risky.
If I recall there were only a few posters who had a real dig at him - too fat, too slow, etc etc

Very happy that a risk paid off for us for once.
Well done Crippa !
Enjoy !

Cripps is fantastic.

But giving plaudits to our recruiting team for a strike rate of about 10% over the past 10 years is setting the bar very very low.

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Yep.

Cripps is the first "top liner" we've drafted since Kennedy.

Wouldnt go handing out too many props to the recruiters just yet.

Its not the same recruiters. Apple and Oranges.

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TC suffers from the social media illness - the death of respect and constructive discourse by keyboard.

The recruiting and list management has been diabolical.... Not sure how you can qualify the last sentence.

They were all there.. theyre all culpable

Can't help but think that this is like when the dumbest kid in the class suddenly scores 90% in the exam.

Yeah good effort and all but were they just peeking over another recruiting team's shoulder?

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Does anyone else find it a tad ironic that 2020 was the year we were hit by an event that no one saw coming?

If you've 'got nothing' then go with necessity, you are bound to strike gold once in a while. I was just reading an article that said it came down to a need for leadership or the need for a key forward; it was down to a pick between Cripps and McCarthy. Too bad we didn't have two picks in that range. That's how you do it.

On the whole, I can't believe Carlton's general lack of ambition with its recruiting, beyond a messiah complex with regards to first rounders. What I mean is, if we can't envisage something then how can we get what we aren't looking for in the first place? There's been too much squandering about with regards to the bulk of the draft and when we do have a few reasonable picks, we go for periphery types with not much development in them.

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Just because I'm offended, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

Cripps was an inspired pick by Rogers.
Trying to take the credit away from him or suggesting it was a fluke is pathetic.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Query / request: I can't find the round by round votes with which to update the site.... anyone see it?

From the Blueseum

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Genuinely feel sorry for Cripps. Poor kid is going to be carrying the weight of the club on his shoulders.

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He's not feeling sorry for himself, he'll thrive on the responsibility, you can see it already.

I think that you left out a decimal place in the percentage figure.

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Yep, exactly.

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