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The most important thing we can do is face the 3-5 year pain cycle it takes to build a list.
Last years trading was a pass. Drafting just cross our fingers but I am not convinced
We need to trade the players who have currency for top 25 picks. I think there are 3 players who fit that profile: Walker, Casboult, Warnock and Yarran. (Yarran only if the deal is right because he doesn't have elite disposal and lacks intensity).
We need to give to get and deal with accusastions of disloyalty for the greater good of the club
So Walker for a pick between 17 & 20
Warnock and Casboult either for 2 picks between 20 & 30 or as a package for 1 pick between 13-18.
Yarran for a Pick in between 8 & 13.
The rider in all that our recruiters need to know they can recruit players without deficiencies at these picks. We don't need stars we need players who can kick & run. We need B graders instead of dreaming that a big body will develop the tank to become an A grader. The picks I am suggesting would have netted us Dunstan and Taylor in the last draft.
I am not sure if the " I won't cull the list" was a play on words but I would be a disappointed member if we didn't make major list changes judged not by the number but the quality of the change.

Lets shut up shop. Mick is hell bent on destroying us. Lets not give him the satisfaction.

Thanks Vyvyan.

Could have had a pick if MM didn't recruit Dale Thomas? Betts left and spent the compo - typical Carlton

That has been a very poor move.

We rightly point out the list management blunders under Ratten and co - yet MM has made his own big blunder after just the one season!

Prior to round 1 we're topping up with a 27yo and MM says we're 1 minute from the premiership window - 2 weeks later the list is rubbish and needs rebuilding.

If you're going to throw big money around; direct it to a KP prospect - this club appears incapable of drafting and developing KP players.

A puck for us means you might add well pour Kristine over it.
What pick world's we have received for betts?
We can't even get early ones right....

Is that an elderly person reference I won't get?

I think late teens/early twenties?

Might as well turn the lights out and hand back the keys if the attitude is going to be "we'll stuff the pick up anyway"

I reckon we have Peter wright in our sights based on our draw and the amount of wins we can get from our last 9 games.

Thanks Vyvyan.

Could have had a pick if MM didn't recruit Dale Thomas? Betts left and spent the compo - typical Carlton

That has been a very poor move.

We rightly point out the list management blunders under Ratten and co - yet MM has made his own big blunder after just the one season!

Prior to round 1 we're topping up with a 27yo and MM says we're 1 minute from the premiership window - 2 weeks later the list is rubbish and needs rebuilding.

If you're going to throw big money around; direct it to a KP prospect - this club appears incapable of drafting and developing KP players.

Rubbish. We would have got a pick between 20 & 25. Which KP prospect were we going to get last year? The difference between Betts and Thomas' salary is 200k. 200k will not stop us getting a KPP this year or the year after. Your arguement has holes all over it.

It's another pick which is gone - a player which the club could have drafted and helped to rebuild the club.

Thomas won't help rebuild the club - that is undeniable; he has played his best football; he is not a centre square player but an inconsistent flanker. His recruitment has only hindered the rebuild. It's one pick but they all add up.

A club bereft of quality KP players spends the loot on an inconsistent 27yo flanker who is of no use to a club like Carlton which needs quality youth. Not to mention the excessive salary and contract length. If you're going to offer such a big contract offer it to a young KP player like Tom Lynch. Too late now.

Another list management blunder - this time from Malthouse instead of Ratten.

You'd think there are club puppets posting on this site.

Lots of quality players picked with picks in the 20s.

If you think the drafting is rubbish then we might as well hand the keys back and turn the lights out.

It's another pick which is gone - a player which the club could have drafted and helped to rebuild the club.

Thomas won't help rebuild the club - that is undeniable; he has played his best football; he is not a centre square player but an inconsistent flanker. His recruitment has only hindered the rebuild. It's one pick but they all add up.

A club bereft of quality KP players spends the loot on an inconsistent 27yo flanker who is of no use to a club like Carlton which needs quality youth. Not to mention the excessive salary and contract length. If you're going to offer such a big contract offer it to a young KP player like Tom Lynch. Too late now.

Another list management blunder - this time from Malthouse instead of Ratten.

You'd think there are club puppets posting on this site.

Lots of quality players picked with picks in the 20s.

If you think the drafting is rubbish then we might as well hand the keys back and turn the lights out.

Id only be playing the kids who deserve a decent shot at it like Graham, Holman and Johnson.
No use wasting our time further on Watson, McInnes, Lucas etc. They ve been tried and tested and they ve FAILED.
Giving away games that aren't really earned doesn't prove anything.