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 Post subject: Kreuzer out 12-14 weeks
PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:57 pm 
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mikkey wrote:
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This sucks. Not because of the impact it will have on field, but because for a guy who gives his all on field, he can't catch a bloody break with injuries. Ever since his knee in 2010 he has been cursed.



That is true. People love to bash him and forget how good he was before his terrible run of injuries started.


He wasn't that good, he was showing signs in year 1 he might be good but that's it

However the season he did his knee his form was very poor before he went down


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 6:10 pm 
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DocSherrin wrote:
Not sure why the 12-14 weeks call being made...metatarsal surgery is more than 3 months...should just say gone for the season.


McKay said he will be back for finals :roll:

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 6:13 pm 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
DocSherrin wrote:
Not sure why the 12-14 weeks call being made...metatarsal surgery is more than 3 months...should just say gone for the season.


McKay said he will be back for finals



Wow, which team will he be playing for ? :yikes:


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 6:25 pm 
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well well well Andy Mac. Great off half back. Great Vet.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:09 pm 
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Look it was a terrible selection at the time and looks worse with injuries

Unless get a special freak talent taking a ruck with a pick in top 10 just horrible decision


Trent cotchin says hi

You just don't need to take rucks with top 10 choices

Look around the league most of the rucks were rookies or later picks

They take ages to develop , often disappoint and are easy to trade for at later date

You are kidding me arent you. It was a toss up between Kreuzer and Cotchin at the time and at the time we had a couple of project rucks and a larger number of duds that we should have binned at the end of 2007.

We recruited Kreuzer as a ruck/forward and he was looking the good after his first 20 or 30 games. He was starting to tear games apart in a way that Cotchin the seagull can only dream of. His (Kreuzer) endurance and work below his knees were elite for a second year player and looked to only be getting better. Then in 2010, disaster... on the shite that they call turf at Jihad stadium... our world came tumbling down and Kreuzer did his knee.

From then til now, it has been a complete disaster for him. Mismanagement of his injury has led to a number of other problems. Ratten, probably being pushed by the 'powerbrokers and backroom strongmen', started playing him before his body had completely recovered. He came back in 2011 too heavy and put too much strain on his knee and as a consequence he had to have his knee drained constantly to relieve the fluid build up. The reason why fluid builds up in joints is to protect injured joints and to cushion them from further injury. As soon as we had to drain it the first time, he would have been stood down to recover... but they kept on playing him... and his problems kept getting worse.

Now he is struggling to recover from a metatarsal injury and we get people like you calling his selection a dud and that we should have wasted a pick on Cotchin.

Our problem hasnt been in our recruiting... it's been in our development of the players that we have picked and managing them if they got injured.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:45 pm 
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Dramoth wrote:
Our problem hasnt been in our recruiting... it's been in our development of the players that we have picked and managing them if they got injured.


I actually think both have been as bad as each other and as such have put us a long way back.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:15 pm 
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kruezers career at carlton is over

blame the carlton administration for not managing this import player

regards to mr swan


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:28 pm 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
DocSherrin wrote:
Not sure why the 12-14 weeks call being made...metatarsal surgery is more than 3 months...should just say gone for the season.


McKay said he will be back for finals :roll:


mckay was referring to the bullants.... :eek:


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:39 pm 
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Bigredisback wrote:
mikkey wrote:
emtwenty wrote:
This sucks. Not because of the impact it will have on field, but because for a guy who gives his all on field, he can't catch a bloody break with injuries. Ever since his knee in 2010 he has been cursed.



That is true. People love to bash him and forget how good he was before his terrible run of injuries started.


He wasn't that good, he was showing signs in year 1 he might be good but that's it

However the season he did his knee his form was very poor before he went down



I do distinctly remember that. He had been mired in a VERY long patch of poor form. From skills development/heavy workload/injury management.

:sad: :sad: :sad:


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:03 pm 
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I just hope he gets right and can play to whatever potential he has within. I don't think he's had that chance yet poor bloke. One thing is for certain hell work his backside off in the recovery.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:17 pm 
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sstormin123 wrote:
Bigredisback wrote:
mikkey wrote:
emtwenty wrote:
This sucks. Not because of the impact it will have on field, but because for a guy who gives his all on field, he can't catch a bloody break with injuries. Ever since his knee in 2010 he has been cursed.



That is true. People love to bash him and forget how good he was before his terrible run of injuries started.


He wasn't that good, he was showing signs in year 1 he might be good but that's it

However the season he did his knee his form was very poor before he went down



I do distinctly remember that. He had been mired in a VERY long patch of poor form. From skills development/heavy workload/injury management.

:sad: :sad: :sad:


..might wanna get yer memory checked, just sayin'..

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:28 pm 
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Just get yourself right Matty, take your time even if it means taking the rest of the year off. The CFC owe you that ...... just come back fresh in 2015

I know you bleed out there on the field and you don't sook ...... some of your team mates should follow suit

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:31 pm 
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yeah this is good news

the guy needs the break

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 4:34 am 
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As MM said the other night he doesn't see him as a modern day No.1 ruck. Too small. Hopes he can make it as a forward second ruck.

Given that's how he is now seen by the MC is he that big a loss??

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:08 am 
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I said back then and will say it again.... We should have traded him to GWS when Sheeds came knocking.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:14 am 
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I heard Matty was so embarrassed about being selected in Carlton's top 150 players he said he won't play until they take him out.

Sticks told him to shut the @#$%&! up you mouthy bastard and that no-one was going to @#$%&! up his special party and of course he's in the top 150 because otherwise there'd be headlines about why a number one draft pick wasn't in a "best of the club" list that includes Simon Beaumont and Bret Thornton.

Sticks agreed that Matty didn't deserve it but Bear Gleeson had explained it to him and it all now made perfect sense. Gotta keep up appearances said Bear.

Sticks then told Matty he could just sit out of football until he changed his mind.

Matty said that wouldn't happen and wondered aloud if he was the only person left at the club with a conscience let alone any sense of pride. He then left the room.

Sticks said "@#$%&! it I'll get Macca to list him as injured though we'll make it for months instead of the standard 1-2 weeks to really show who's in charge."

Sticks was last heard mumbling something along the lines of "Conscience? What the @#$%&! is that?" before heading off for a few Crownies with Bear.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:52 am 
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This is the press conference at the hospital where the club surgeon has reported on the success of Matthew's surgery

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:04 am 
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Not a fan of abusing Kreuzer or the selection of him. It was the correct decision but injuries have cruelled him.

Never forget the day he took Sydney apart in 2011.

Long career still ahead for him if they allow him to get his body right. That means his 2014 is over.

Shit happens.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:05 am 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
As MM said the other night he doesn't see him as a modern day No.1 ruck. Too small. Hopes he can make it as a forward second ruck.

Given that's how he is now seen by the MC is he that big a loss??


..am a malty fan, but he is wrong on this.. ..he isn't too small at all, yes there are taller rucks but not many good ones, most are close to his height maybe a fraction taller, but mostly around the two meter mark.. ..no matter how good you are in the ruck, you,simply must be able to also be decent around the ground..

..cox, the premier modern day ruck is good in the ruck yes but what makes him great is his around the round influence.. ..sandi has always been a monster ruck but really dominated late in his career once he started being involved after the tap.. ..all of krooz's best games he has been main ruck, only just last season champ data had him as best all round ruck for a third of year with highest rating for any ruck over entire year.. ..two meters is not too small, mm has it qrong on this.. ..of he prefers knockers in the ruck ok, but use another reason,for it coa he iant too short for it..

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