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ShanDog
PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:08 pm 
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What other players through the midfield??

Personally id only be looking at Menzel.. should be in next week...!!!
Then maybe Graham and at a stretch Bell... the rest wont be much chop ....

Still have Carrazzo and Murph out injured... but that shouldnt make that much of a difference.

Id probably only be relying on
McKiness
Menzel

Then Bell and Graham

and the 2 injureds.. thats it!!!

But we dont have a hell of alot we can call upon TO MIX THINGS UP!!!

thats the probem....

Buckleys useless.. cos he can only come in for a small forward.

The rest are hbfer types or crappy talls!!!


Of the midfielders, who do you leave out for Graham, Menzel and Bell to come in? Who can they be swapped with like-for-like?

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Kane Lucas will never be anything more than an average player.
Waste of Pick 12.
4 years in the system and still misses gimme goals 8 times out of 10,

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Navy Blue Horse
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I can't believe supporters are still banging on about Ratts. Malthouse has proven himself over the years to be a great coach. Ratts was a nice guy but just wasn't cut out to be a senior coach. Malthouse is the reverse. He's a self absorbed prick, but the man can coach.



True. He just can't polish the turd of a list Ratts left him. Nobody could.

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GreatEx
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Synbad wrote:
Buckleys useless.. cos he can only come in for a small forward.


Easy one that - bring him in for Garlett. I'm a big Jeffy fan, but every season without fail he goes missing midway through the season. Last year he was shocking during out midseason nadir, but with all the injuries we had no choice but to keep playing him. With Buckley and Menzel waiting in the wings, I'd give Jeff a couple of games off to recharge the batteries. Not doing anything for his development or confidence to keep persisting in him, given his history.
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Synbad
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ShanDog wrote:
Synbad wrote:
What other players through the midfield??

Personally id only be looking at Menzel.. should be in next week...!!!
Then maybe Graham and at a stretch Bell... the rest wont be much chop ....

Still have Carrazzo and Murph out injured... but that shouldnt make that much of a difference.

Id probably only be relying on
McKiness
Menzel

Then Bell and Graham

and the 2 injureds.. thats it!!!

But we dont have a hell of alot we can call upon TO MIX THINGS UP!!!

thats the probem....

Buckleys useless.. cos he can only come in for a small forward.

The rest are hbfer types or crappy talls!!!


Of the midfielders, who do you leave out for Graham, Menzel and Bell to come in? Who can they be swapped with like-for-like?



Lucas is useless.. ad you wouldnt take out mids for mids.. youd take out Whites for mids.. and in a game like today Casboult...

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kingkerna
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But remember..... Trust malthouse


Yeah nice try. I saw MM coaching specifically about wet weather football and guess what? The team played a shitload better after that.

Mick is an excellent coach. Now he just needs the right playing group. It will come.

The fact that he needed to school these duds on how to play wet weather footy is an indictment on our list

The fact he didn't school them pre game is an indictment on him

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redback
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We need to hit the Gym.

For what it's worth I was pleasantly surprised we had a dip in these conditions and against this side.

We did alot wrong but better than expected.

Wrong set up at selections had us behind the eight ball to start off with.
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WOW
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Synbad wrote:
What other players through the midfield??

Personally id only be looking at Menzel.. should be in next week...!!!
Then maybe Graham and at a stretch Bell... the rest wont be much chop ....

Still have Carrazzo and Murph out injured... but that shouldnt make that much of a difference.

Id probably only be relying on
McKiness
Menzel

Then Bell and Graham

and the 2 injureds.. thats it!!!

But we dont have a hell of alot we can call upon TO MIX THINGS UP!!!

thats the probem....

Buckleys useless.. cos he can only come in for a small forward.

The rest are hbfer types or crappy talls!!!


agree

don't have much to look forward to

we have been fortunate with injuries this year, so our depth hasn't really been tested

if we do, we are $%^@#
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kezza
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Navy Blue Horse wrote:
Blue Boys wrote:
I can't believe supporters are still banging on about Ratts. Malthouse has proven himself over the years to be a great coach. Ratts was a nice guy but just wasn't cut out to be a senior coach. Malthouse is the reverse. He's a self absorbed prick, but the man can coach.



True. He just can't polish the turd of a list Ratts left him. Nobody could.

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Stamos
PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:12 pm 
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Dumb dumb dumb football, and we gave them a 2 quarter head start.
Far too many passengers, and guys who played ok games but made crucial terrible wet-weather decisions.

The last free-kick goals were shockers, and killed the game, but it didn't look like we were going to be able to kick 2 more goals at the time Hendo got pinged.
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Synbad
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GreatEx wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Buckleys useless.. cos he can only come in for a small forward.


Easy one that - bring him in for Garlett. I'm a big Jeffy fan, but every season without fail he goes missing midway through the season. Last year he was shocking during out midseason nadir, but with all the injuries we had no choice but to keep playing him. With Buckley and Menzel waiting in the wings, I'd give Jeff a couple of games off to recharge the batteries. Not doing anything for his development or confidence to keep persisting in him, given his history.

Buckley is way off AFL standard...... saw him last weekend.

He needs to be playing and developing on the wing... he doesnt touch the ball.. and in AFL will be doing less than Garlett

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ShanDog wrote:
Synbad wrote:
What other players through the midfield??

Personally id only be looking at Menzel.. should be in next week...!!!
Then maybe Graham and at a stretch Bell... the rest wont be much chop ....

Still have Carrazzo and Murph out injured... but that shouldnt make that much of a difference.

Id probably only be relying on
McKiness
Menzel

Then Bell and Graham

and the 2 injureds.. thats it!!!

But we dont have a hell of alot we can call upon TO MIX THINGS UP!!!

thats the probem....

Buckleys useless.. cos he can only come in for a small forward.

The rest are hbfer types or crappy talls!!!


Of the midfielders, who do you leave out for Graham, Menzel and Bell to come in? Who can they be swapped with like-for-like?


Don't swap like for like. Take out Boots and/or White. Play midfielders off hb and give them minutes onball. Take out Garlett if he has lost the plot and throw one in the pocket too.

More rotations. Can keep up what we do well for longer. We also get more flex and better hands , skills and running into the 22.
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Navy Blue Horse
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kingkerna wrote:
Hornet wrote:
ShanDog wrote:
kingkerna wrote:
But remember..... Trust malthouse


Yeah nice try. I saw MM coaching specifically about wet weather football and guess what? The team played a shitload better after that.

Mick is an excellent coach. Now he just needs the right playing group. It will come.

The fact that he needed to school these duds on how to play wet weather footy is an indictment on our list

The fact he didn't school them pre game is an indictment on him


Maybe he did. Old habits die hard.

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ShanDog
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kingkerna wrote:
Hornet wrote:
ShanDog wrote:
kingkerna wrote:
But remember..... Trust malthouse


Yeah nice try. I saw MM coaching specifically about wet weather football and guess what? The team played a shitload better after that.

Mick is an excellent coach. Now he just needs the right playing group. It will come.

The fact that he needed to school these duds on how to play wet weather footy is an indictment on our list

The fact he didn't school them pre game is an indictment on him


:hitcomputer: :hitcomputer: :hitcomputer:

Anything more you would like to blame on him? Labor leadership issues? Climate change? McDonald's gherkins?

Always some way to bring it back to Mick's fault isnt there? It's like a broken record.

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The Normal One
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kingkerna wrote:
Its about getting the best out of the team you select, that's what a good coach can do. He's not doing that.


I would actually say he is getting the best he can out of our list. 22pts our worse loss on a soggy SCG against the reigning Premier who came off a loss.

Menzel, Graham, McInnes, maybe Buckley are the future, but not fit enough yet. Hopefully McInnes is not too far away as he's our third tall moving forward.


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Synbad
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redback wrote:
We need to hit the Gym.

For what it's worth I was pleasantly surprised we had a dip in these conditions and against this side.

We did alot wrong but better than expected.

Wrong set up at selections had us behind the eight ball to start off with.

yeah maybe... but todays mids must be able to run hard and stand in a tackle and execute

we have mids that can do one of those elements and nothing in the reserves too...

we can bring in a Laidler... or a Duigan... or a Davies... to go with a Bootsma.. and a White etc... but thats not the mix teams are using right now is it???

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kingkerna wrote:
Hornet wrote:
ShanDog wrote:
kingkerna wrote:
But remember..... Trust malthouse


Yeah nice try. I saw MM coaching specifically about wet weather football and guess what? The team played a shitload better after that.

Mick is an excellent coach. Now he just needs the right playing group. It will come.

The fact that he needed to school these duds on how to play wet weather footy is an indictment on our list

The fact he didn't school them pre game is an indictment on him

That fact that he has to school them at all is :lol:

What did they think that liquid falling on their dumb scones was?

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redback wrote:
We need to hit the Gym.

For what it's worth I was pleasantly surprised we had a dip in these conditions and against this side.

We did alot wrong but better than expected.

Wrong set up at selections had us behind the eight ball to start off with.

there is an easier way...

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ShanDog
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club29 wrote:
ShanDog wrote:
Synbad wrote:
What other players through the midfield??

Personally id only be looking at Menzel.. should be in next week...!!!
Then maybe Graham and at a stretch Bell... the rest wont be much chop ....

Still have Carrazzo and Murph out injured... but that shouldnt make that much of a difference.

Id probably only be relying on
McKiness
Menzel

Then Bell and Graham

and the 2 injureds.. thats it!!!

But we dont have a hell of alot we can call upon TO MIX THINGS UP!!!

thats the probem....

Buckleys useless.. cos he can only come in for a small forward.

The rest are hbfer types or crappy talls!!!


Of the midfielders, who do you leave out for Graham, Menzel and Bell to come in? Who can they be swapped with like-for-like?


Don't swap like for like. Take out Boots and/or White. Play midfielders off hb and give them minutes onball. Take out Garlett if he has lost the plot and throw one in the pocket too.

More rotations. Can keep up what we do well for longer. We also get more flex and better hands , skills and running into the 22.


Sounds good in theory but I don't see it working against everyone like that. I suppose with Jamo and Henderson taking the talls all the time, it could work for a lot of opposition though.

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Synbad
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club29 wrote:
ShanDog wrote:
Synbad wrote:
What other players through the midfield??

Personally id only be looking at Menzel.. should be in next week...!!!
Then maybe Graham and at a stretch Bell... the rest wont be much chop ....

Still have Carrazzo and Murph out injured... but that shouldnt make that much of a difference.

Id probably only be relying on
McKiness
Menzel

Then Bell and Graham

and the 2 injureds.. thats it!!!

But we dont have a hell of alot we can call upon TO MIX THINGS UP!!!

thats the probem....

Buckleys useless.. cos he can only come in for a small forward.

The rest are hbfer types or crappy talls!!!


Of the midfielders, who do you leave out for Graham, Menzel and Bell to come in? Who can they be swapped with like-for-like?


Don't swap like for like. Take out Boots and/or White. Play midfielders off hb and give them minutes onball. Take out Garlett if he has lost the plot and throw one in the pocket too.

More rotations. Can keep up what we do well for longer. We also get more flex and better hands , skills and running into the 22.



What midfielders???
We have been concentrating on hbfers...

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