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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:21 pm 
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Our only hope is if there is an emergency board meeting called for Monday.


Won't happen. Talking a pile of injuries, half-fit blokes actually in the side with bugger all pre-season's and a bloke who has taken us from nothing in 2007 to at least playing for top spot 3 weeks ago. even if we flowered it up, so I'm guessing there is no chance of an emergency meeting come Monday.

Probably the first year we won't achieve our target since Ratten took over, much for reason's of having bugger all on the park. So i think you will be disappointed.

Thanks for that Ratts.... i mean jim... :lol:

Quick tell us about Essendon* again.....!!!

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:24 pm 
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No crisis meeting when half the leadership group is out injured and the other half is out of form. Injury crisis is a calamity at the current rate I don't think we will be able to field a squad of 22 in a couple of weeks


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:27 pm 
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No crisis meeting when half the leadership group is out injured and the other half is out of form. Injury crisis is a calamity at the current rate I don't think we will be able to field a squad of 22 in a couple of weeks


:lol:
Didnt hurt collingwood did it???
They still have respect!!!

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:28 pm 
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They dont have 15 players on their injury list/


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:36 pm 
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j.scarponi wrote:
They dont have 15 players on their injury list/


They develop depth by giving kids a taste instead of letting them rot in the reserves for 3yrs.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:39 pm 
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All our depth is injured.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:39 pm 
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cimm1979 wrote:
Our only hope is if there is an emergency board meeting called for Monday.


All this tells me is that the players run the club.
If the players don't like the coach the coach goes.
Well I don't think Ratts is a great coach but he is the coach for now.
What happens if they don’t like or respect the next coach after two or three years.
It’s never up to the players to run the coach.
Who do these little pretentious pounces think they are?
Drop Judd.
Drop Gibbs.
Drop Betts.
If you’re going to lose, lose your way and show the public what you expect from these little shits who think they are above what is expected from them when they pull on this jumper that has had so much history and respect in the past.
Who do you think you are to destroy that with your childish whinging, pathetic and over valued self worth?
Toughen up or get out.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:41 pm 
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j.scarponi wrote:
They dont have 15 players on their injury list/

Tell me the regulars missing.

Youre fantasising if youre including rookies and ressies players and guys that get dropped every second week.

They have bone fide premiership team regulars out.. thats the difference.

Youre talking Casboult Davies White etc too....

How many of our outs are mainstayers???

Kreuzer was replaced anyway.....

And youre talking 2 defenders.

Defence will not keep them under 50 points to allow us to win... right???

Or you think with a full defence we would have kept them to 49 points and won 51 odd to 49 odd???

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:44 pm 
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Collingwood only have Luke Ball and Okeefe on LTI... the rest of them will be available.. if they get no othet injuries over the next 2 weeks they will only have 2* LTI.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:45 pm 
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Collingwood only have Luke Ball and Okeefe on LTI... the rest of them will be available.. if they get no othet injuries over the next 2 weeks they will only have 2* LTI.

Were talking about the season so far.

They havent humiliated themselves with more REAL players out longer.

Add Krakouer

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:48 pm 
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Yes Krakouer too..their injuries are standard 1-3 weeks.....they have been able to constantly field a structured team.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:54 pm 
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Yes Krakouer too..their injuries are standard 1-3 weeks.....they have been able to constantly field a structured team.

And us???

Break it down week by week

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:55 pm 
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bootsma jamison duigan
yarran watson mccarthy
buckley mclean waite
robinson henderson lucas
walker mitchell betts
warnock judd ellard
curnow kreuzer dale kerr[sub]

pending injuries of course.
don't give a s@#t if we get flogged.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:57 pm 
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No idea what you mean, sorry


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:59 pm 
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Cos youre such an expert on injuries.
Give us the two clubs injuries week by week.. and performances.

A break down synospis of both clubs round by round unjuries / performance.

I want to know what youre staring at.

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Jesus.......

I got no idea what to say.

This club is a joke. It's really quite sad.

Personally, I think at the end of the season we need a full overhaul. Stick, McKay, Ratts & Swann all need to go. It's like a frigen boys club.

Premierships shouldnt just be "expected"......... They need to be deserved!

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make any money last night ryan?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:38 pm 
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make any money last night ryan?

i did ... and i bought drinks for the boys with it...

:thumbsup:

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redback wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
Our only hope is if there is an emergency board meeting called for Monday.


All this tells me is that the players run the club.
If the players don't like the coach the coach goes.
Well I don't think Ratts is a great coach but he is the coach for now.
What happens if they don’t like or respect the next coach after two or three years.
It’s never up to the players to run the coach.
Who do these little pretentious pounces think they are?
Drop Judd.
Drop Gibbs.
Drop Betts.
If you’re going to lose, lose your way and show the public what you expect from these little shits who think they are above what is expected from them when they pull on this jumper that has had so much history and respect in the past.
Who do you think you are to destroy that with your childish whinging, pathetic and over valued self worth?
Toughen up or get out.
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:


It's not about whether the players like the coach or not. I'm sure most of them like him as he is a nice bloke. But does being a nice bloke make you want to play for him? No, of course it doesn't. Leadership, respect, an understanding and a sense of consequence are what drive a team to play for a coach.

I've said this previously in another thread that the way players respond to coaches is much like the way people respond to their superiors in the workplace. If you have someone who is not a natural born leader trying to implement a plan or strategy that the subordinates don't believe in it's never going to work. You may have times where things just click for one reason or another, or have patches of brilliance instigated by indiduals but you will never form a successful, cohesive unit.

That's exactly where we're at and if things don't change quickly then Ratten has to go - like it or not.

If you want an example of how quickly things can change, look no further than the Crows, Geelong last year, or even St. Kilda under Watters. A new coach with a sound plan empowers the players and breathes life into them. It doesn't mean their predecessors were bad coaches, or bad blokes, or even unliked by the playing group - it was just time for a change.

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