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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:49 pm 
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If the unthinkable happens, and Waite does get rubbed out for that, I'd think about bringing in Collins as the sub, and keeping the other 21. We still have enough hight there, with Bower, Laidler and Hendo back, T-bird and Hammer forward.

Otherwise, no changes, Touhy can wear the vest this week.


No point rushing Jamo or Duigs back with a short break.


I like the sound of that. I think the Lions will have a respectful year and the result will be similar to that against richmond, although I don't want to give them the chances we gave the tigers!


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:52 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
Synbad wrote:

No need to rush jamo in against the Lions.
He isnt a must.
The defence looked ok with Bower and Hendo and T Bird back there.

Let him have the extra week or two.
Its a long season and one thing Jamo has proven is that he is not durable.

Keep rusty in and Lucas on the bench again.
He did a wonderful Fasolo impersonation.


+1 :thumbsup: Why do I feel afraid about now :razz:

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Rubbish statement. If Jamison pulls up ok from today he will walk straight back into the side on Thurs night.


Unlike your plentiful bounty ever since you joined TC :eek: :eek:

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:02 am 
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I thought I named this thread 'Brisbane Lions v Carlton'.

I think you'll find that 'Brisbane Lions' is the Brion's official name, not Brisbane.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:18 am 
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So let me get this straight Synbad. If an employee fails to succeed in a job role (which in waites instance was bounded from defence to forward to wing to defence to forward) thanks to an employer not giving him correct training, is that the employers fault? Or the employee?



Really? In his 10 years at the club, how many games have you seen Waite play on the wing?

Getting back to the Lions, I wouldn't be against McLean coming in for Russel and pushing Scotland onto the back flank. Though I suspect Duigan will get the gig.
Yes Jamo had a good run in the VFL but his touch was average. Juggled several attempted marks he'd normally swallow.
Another 3/4 in the VFL wouldn't hurt.
We need another dogs body around the ball with the Lions midfield so McLeans the option for me. His body has obviously freed up due to the increased penetration in his kicking and he covers far more ground than anyone else running around in the 2s.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:22 am 
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If we are a genuine top 4 side then we go up to Brisbane do what we need to do and get out with a win.

As we play the better teams (and even the likes of Brisbane away), we need to be mindful of the third quarter fade out:

Kangas in NAB Cup
Richmond Thursday night

We know we have a really good squad, no matter who plays we need to apply ourselves and we will be ok.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:10 am 
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Blue Vain wrote:
TrueBluePete wrote:
So let me get this straight Synbad. If an employee fails to succeed in a job role (which in waites instance was bounded from defence to forward to wing to defence to forward) thanks to an employer not giving him correct training, is that the employers fault? Or the employee?



Really? In his 10 years at the club, how many games have you seen Waite play on the wing?

Getting back to the Lions, I wouldn't be against McLean coming in for Russel and pushing Scotland onto the back flank. Though I suspect Duigan will get the gig.
Yes Jamo had a good run in the VFL but his touch was average. Juggled several attempted marks he'd normally swallow.
Another 3/4 in the VFL wouldn't hurt.
We need another dogs body around the ball with the Lions midfield so McLeans the option for me. His body has obviously freed up due to the increased penetration in his kicking and he covers far more ground than anyone else running around in the 2s.

He was talking about the hospital East wing .........ward B bed 2

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:23 pm 
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Rexy wrote:
Waite has very little on field discipline in the way he plays - too reckless
Probably a result of the lack of leadership during the dark years - wasn't trained properly as a pup


Yep Waite on field, at least 3 times on Thursday night he almost took a Richmond players head off unnecessarily.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:42 pm 
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Went to the Dees Lions game yesterday. Melbourne were dreadful and looked like a side where senior players don't like the coach and their game plan looked as though it was got up by kinder kids let loose with the crayons, but the lions were good. They lack class and experience but seem disciplined and hard at it. Rockliff played well forward but kicked badly. Leuenberger is a very promising mobile ruck and will have a great duel with Big K, also some old guy wearing number 20 did all right. They won't pose much of a threat if we are serious but they also won't stop battling on. I like their rough and ready Irish CHB McKeever, very raw but a real goer. After a shocking start Voss might be getting a good group together. They are better than at least 5 sides but we should be way too good.

I'd make no change. I'd like JR to get a good go to see if he can find his lost mojo. Give Lucas a lot of game time, not sure who to sub, on form JR but then he ain't going to find form on the pine.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:46 pm 
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I agree gerry, there's a little bit of that uncompromising Voss style about them. Our blokes will know they've played a game when it's over.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:53 pm 
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I like JR as much as the next supporter but if we want to be fair dinkum about top 4, a performance like JR's needs to be frowned upon. Sugar on the other hand made the most of his opportunity and should be rewarded with a starting spot. Maybe make JR sub, otherwise back to ressies. Not sure if there is anyone ready to step up to take his place. Might save him for one more week

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:01 pm 
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Tricky one with Jamo: played pretty much a full game yesterday and was pretty good but right by Thursday up there?
Duigan definitely rusty but with the bye next week in vfl, how would he get right for Pies in round 3?
I think we can afford to give JR another start and if he's no good, sub him off. Army and Zac would be tough to make sub: see massive upside in giving the Irishman as much game time as possible.
If Waite goes (what a joke if he did) then Collins presented well yesterday and looked our most dangerous forward.
We are nearly in a position to pick based on a combination of player availability and rotation plus match-ups for a particular game style. Another good challenge for the club this week in the build up to lot's of bigger challenges to come.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:15 pm 
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:07 pm 
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Not really fair to compare lucas and russell and their input.
Playing forward and being fresh on the ground in the last quarter has got to help you look better than playing back through the grunt of the game Did JR's opponents do well - If JR stopped his opponent from getting much of the ball he may have done better than it looked. (I have to say it didn't look too good...).

Whilst I suspect JR's effort wasn't good enough I don't think it is helpful to replace players after 1 average game. Should give them at least a chance to get into it...


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:10 pm 
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Richmond shifted Cotchin on to JR and he kicked 2 and had a hand in another and got them back in the game
He is struggling at the moment I hope he regains his confidence and goes back to playing the way we all know he can

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:27 pm 
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If we want Duigan and Jamo to be up and about to play against the pies they really have to come in this week as The Northern blues have a bye
It would be a big call to bring in both when they have hardly played all summer

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:06 pm 
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Richmond shifted Cotchin on to JR and he kicked 2 and had a hand in another and got them back in the game
He is struggling at the moment I hope he regains his confidence and goes back to playing the way we all know he can


Did you actually watch the video of those 2 goals?

1st. JR got pinged for hands in the back in a marking contest. 60/40 but I guess it was there. Not the 1st and wont be the last defender to get done that way. Such is life.

2nd. JR saw that the other Blues defender was out of position in a marking contest against Richmond's Jackson so he went into the marking contest to spoil. Jackson got a hand up and the ball popped off Jackson's hand over the back to Cotchin who had stayed down when JR flew to spoil. Missed by a hairs breath on affecting the spoil.

It is a game of inches and JR was just short.

Aside from those 2 incidents JR kept his other opponents quiet. Edwards did nothing. Nahas virtually zip. Sure JR didn't get much of the ball himself but it is not as if he was toweled six ways from Sunday by every opponent he stood.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:16 pm 
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If we want Duigan and Jamo to be up and about to play against the pies they really have to come in this week as The Northern blues have a bye
It would be a big call to bring in both when they have hardly played all summer


I am pretty much over rushing players back in or who are under done - I wouldn't bring them in for the Brisbane game if there is the least bit doubt.

We saw what happened in the pre-season playing them (and Walker) when they were not quite right.

We should have faith in our fittest 22 against Brisbane - and let Diugan, Jamison & Walker have all the time they need to get right.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:17 am 
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I'd be happy with no changes to the side... We did ok. I would hatebto see McLean or collins in the side. Neither are up to it, or at least are not the way forward for the club. If either of those two get a game this year then we will be struggling.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:31 am 
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Aside from those 2 incidents JR kept his other opponents quiet. Edwards did nothing. Nahas virtually zip. Sure JR didn't get much of the ball himself but it is not as if he was toweled six ways from Sunday by every opponent he stood.

Regards Cazzesman


JR did his job for the night but we have Duigan and Jamo to come into the back 6. He will need to do more than just keep his opponent quiet to keep his spot.


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