Under done Bower - when touhy was going well
Playing Jospeh when maclean has been in the best every week knowing Carrotts was injured
Playing Walker with food posioning when Kerr was available
Playing waite when he hasnt trained all week

Dumb decisions made at the selection table

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Forget about McLean for Joseph - I think it would be McLean Vs Ellard, but the surprising one is Tuohy and Joseph.

Tuohy could have played the same role as Joseph – he won’t get turned inside out, he won’t over commit to the contest and he will hit a target more often than not – 3 ticks for Tuohy over Joseph….very surprising decision.

With the Waite one I’m not sure who could have come in? It’s a test for our KP depth.

Can’t really blame the injuries though….we have Waite and Jamison out but the filth have Brown and Dawes missing.

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We could've used Setanta's ability to mark in the square, you are correct! how many marks in the square were there tonight?
Do you honestly believe your crap that the kid hasn't improved over the last couple of years??

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Pretty well summed up there.

Our fwd line was just stagnant. Not enough movement when kicking out from behinds either...was a bit like the bad old days actually.

The Dogs were obviously primed for this & played accordingly. Jones & Williams had blinders which didn't help our cause.

Hope our boys weren't looking ahead to next week.

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We play an underdone Bower when we have a fit Austin in the Magoos who hasn't done a lot wrong.

People crying out for KP depth and not wanting to give Austin a go.

And we're most likely going to send him in as cannon fodder against Collingwood.

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I think we have been caught out by 2 very in form sides, while being flat ourselves 2 of the last 3 weeks.

Interesting how the Dogs and Saints seem to be hitting their straps now, hope they can do us a favour and beat the Eagles in coming weeks.

Another game just like the Eagles game where you could tell after 5 minutes that we werent switched on and we going to get done... We can definately kiss the Top 4 goodbye after what we saw today...

Every time teams play us at our own game, we dont seem to be able to hack the heat and turn to water... I know people will crack it at the negativity, but like it or not, its the truth.
It was the same bad signs we showed against the Eagles... Again, there were too many dumb mistakes by hand and foot, and our bad decision making, well, thats another story in itself... The same players went missing when the going got tough... Ratten said we d learned our lessons after that loss... obviously he was wrong.

Top sides can cope with injuries. We cant. So much for that fantastic depth we supposedly have...

We will definately get done badly next week against the Filth, and as for the game against the Scum, well that isnt looking too pretty at the moment either. Realistically, we could be hanging onto 5th spot for dear life in 2 weeks time....

Until we prove outherwise, we deserve all the crap we get about being flat track bullies...

P.S. The game looks like its passed Houlihan by. He was absolutely shocking today. Goodbye Hoops, thats for the memories...

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All the bullshit is annoying me guys we are not Richmond we are Carlton .We are a top 8 team not a top 4 team .IN SAYING THAT If I AM NOT MISTAKEN WE ARE STILL 4TH.Our list has improved since last year Duigan,Laidler, Curnow Kreuser but our players are only human + have bad days .We had a shit day .Remember the more you win the closer you are to a loss .Pies maybe great but they are not invincible sooner or later they will lose lets hope its this week Cheer up next week is another game Go bLUES

What happened in 2010 is nugatory to 2011's attack on the flag. And that's a fact too.

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SO predictable how everyone flip flops.

Everyone was saying West Coast have a piss easy draw.

They play the Saints this week in Melbourne who are in some good form, with WC possibly being without Kerr.

WC then return two weeks later to Etihad (after the derby) to play the Dogs....you can't pencil in any game.

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We wont be 4th for long... Going into a well drilled, well structured team without our best tall defender and our best tall forward...
No chance of winning no matter what possitive spin you try to put on it...

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Takes a bit of the passionate sting out of our position thus far. It now becomes a game of fight to the death more than arrogant "catch me if you can".

I like it.

Wouldn't want to play eagles at subi in finals though. Is now a very possible scenario.

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Wouldn't go as far as no chance, probably the best time to get them after they have flogged some sides and be on good terms with themselves.

In saying that, I will go in hope and no expectation. If we continue like today we will lose by 8+ goals.

Completely disagree with the Houlihan comments; he had team mates calling for the ball and he fired it off, only to discover they had no right to be calling for it. Was hot footy today and his delivery suffered because his team mates weren't working hard enough to provide an outlet.

Certainly proved quick enough many times despite a few frees against his name. 22 possessions on the day.

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I remember a few years back we would have lost 14 in a row had we not beaten the filth well we beat them
all i am saying you never know nobody predicted the scum to beat the pussies

I'm in the other 50% for a start.

My statement was based more on what we have been able to achieve for the year and how we need to be able to get our best 22 on the park all at once.

For example:
Kreuzer for the first 9 weeks, when we lost one and drew one.
Waite who was out for two or three, during which time we lost one.
Robbo although he isn't a tall, who was absent for the WCE game.
Houlihan even though about 75% of the posters here think he should have been delisted in 2003 when he pulled out of a contest.
Curnow whom most people have in their best 22
Duigan and Laidler whom most people have in their best 22.

At one stage we had about 8 of our best 22 out at once. Not even Hawthorn have had that much bad luck at the same time.

We have used (last time I looked) the second most players this year. Not entirely doe to injury admittedly.

Collingwood has used the fewest or second fewest. (just for the purposes of comparison)

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You learn a bit more in losses than you do in wins - that's about the only pro to come out of it.

1. Guys who aren't in the best 22 - AJ is really not quite up to it. I admire his workrate but his decision-making is poor. Getting caught following Hooper around in the 3rd quarter is an understandable error for a first-year player, it's not for a guy who's almost played 50 games. Same conclusion re Houlihan to my mind - he'll get a few more games this year cos we're being tested but I can't see him being part of a flag side - doesn't get enough of it and his lack of pace is a liability. Maybe not in the same boat but Warnock's lack of development is a concern.

2. We are still incredibly vulnerable at Etihad when sides choke up our half - it happened again today, similar thing at time vs the eagles and almost cost us wins against the Crows and the Saints. It really needs to be addressed. Our inability to lower our eyes and hit targets instead of bombing it long is a real worry. There have been very view games this year when we've been beaten for contested ball/clearances - the critical issue is ball use and today we looked like we just expected goals to come - Yazz's game is a good example but by no means the only one.

3. We need some greater flexibility down forward in terms of set-up. Isolating Jeffy out of the goalsquare, anyone? Dare I mention the paddock? I think the hand was forced in the last with Scotland up full-forward cos he copped a heavy knock late in the third.

4. I took the Eagles loss with a grain of salt, tonight was a big let-down and makes the top four very iffy, particularly if we turn in another performance or two like that before the bye - very jaded-looking bunch of players.

Wow. Just Wow!



Can I nominate this is one of the dumbest posts ever?

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I was impressed with how Duigan slotted back into the side today. Gee he's a gutsy player.

Disappointing game. Hunger wasn't there, team looked flat and wanted to play "bruise free" football! Smashed in the clearances and no run and carry at all!
Ratts...Why did we not move Henderson forward and Bower back? Why?