Agree with you Surrey. We certainly got a crook deal from the umps.

Waite does do some silly things at times but a few of the free's against him last night were either trivial or completely wrong. He was pinged for one tackle when he had one hand around the waist of the Sydney player and the other on the arm about 3 injches below the shoulder.

Walkers free against for flying for a mark ??? He did not put hands in back and on TV did not appear to make contact with the Sydney player. If he did it was incidental.

There was another tackler by Armie (I think) where one of his arms was around the waist and his other hand was high but not in contact with the Sydney player.

If we received the same sort of leeway we would have received about 20 more frees.

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I'd really like it if he was disciplined like everyone else. Instead we're supposed to appreciate the fact he didn't get further undisciplined than 6 free kicks?

How would you like to be Juddy, Curnow or Murphy? They're getting smashed, climbed on and beaten at the stoppages yet with persistence they drive the ball into our forward line. Only to see this banana give away stupid free kicks and let the opposition have the ball straight back.

Anyway.....

Pros
Judd, Curnow, Murphy, Scotlands clearances in the 3rd quarter, Jamo...again, Jeffy, Carlos' workrate, etc etc

Areas for improvement.
White. Thought he struggled. JR looked better but appears down on confidence. Gibbs was great on Goodes but he needs more composure around the contest. He seems to throw it on the boot to avoid contact. Duigan very good again but needs more subtlety when hitting the boundary. That's 3 times he's been pinged this year.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

This is more for our current season to date...

Pro:
We suddenly have some serious depth in our list ... players that didn't line up last night.
Front liners - Bower, Henderson, Kreuzer, Lucas, McLean, Watson, Yarran
Second tier - Hampson, Houlihan, Thornton
Up & comers - Collins, Davies, Kerr, Tuohy


Con:
Need to play 4 quarters on a consistent basis

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The fact is that he isn't as disciplined as others and never has been, BUT in the past he would has smacked someone and be suspended... I'm happy that he is becoming more disciplined than he was.

No thoughts on Gibbs?

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Pros

Captain obvious with #5
Walker - I thought Walks has again shown some great signs. Mentally he looks in a good place and the confidence in his shoulders looks to be at 100%. 4 or 5 times he really hit in hard and appeared to have the mind set that if he couldn't win the contested ball his opponent was going to end up on his backside. The paddling Walks has gone and body contact Walks has arrived. He is looking explosive and his consistency of effort is starting to gell even when he doesn't win the ball 1st time he is back on it inh a flash. Great stuff.

Simmo - Simmo has stepped up to the next level. His desire and intensity at crunge times has become consistently inspirational. 2nd only to #5 in that area now.

Jamo - Another who is becoming a model of consistency.

Jeffy. Probably in the top 6 in our team now. Amazing effort from where he has come from in his life.

Waity - Gave away plenty of frees but his presentation to the footy was consistent throughout. Gave good contest and faught hard to win the contested footy.

Laidler, Duigs and JR win more than they lose 1 on 1 so I'm happy so far. With Yazz to add some speed and flash it is looking good.

Ellard and Curnow need to play every game from here on in. They aren't quick but they are footy smart and when the crunch is on they are up to it.

If Murph is out I'd bring in some complimentary leg speed in Touhy or Lucas.

Cons

We didn't beat the Bombers.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

This is something which really irks me, and is a massive con:

With the match being played on Friday night, and our next match not until the Monday of the next round, did the Club make any effort to get some of the guys (obviously you would want guys like Murphy who had his arm in a sling to miss it) to interact with a local, aligned footy club up here? Get the players to go to the ground, watch the match? Mix with some players and pass on some words of encouragement and advice?

It would have been a massive boon to the local club, and their players, and a big thing for supporters up here to possibly be able to mingle in a less sterile environment than the usual events, not to mention a massive PR boost, and a good basis for some Essendon-style puff piece journalism (hell, if you can't beat 'em in the papers.....)

Disappointing effort.

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KK I thought I read in the paper yesterday that the players stayed in Sydney an extra day and only Murph returned early....

Stayed in Sydney and had some harbourside R&R, or stayed in Sydney and did something similar to what I just suggested? I reckon probably the former.

If it's the latter, then there was no hint of it from the Club itself, which is a massive own goal in not being forward in the PR stakes.

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KK why do you come out swinging when you don't have any facts about what did or didn't go on. By the look of your post you have just assumed nothing was done and had a dip. Why is that?

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

Last time we played up here, there was something arranged, IIRC, with a small clinic of some sort. All Sydney members were sent information about it through the NSW Member network.

I didn't get any information like that this time around.

That means one of 2 things:

1) They did nothing. Very poor, IMO, from a fan standpoint, as well as a PR one.

2) They did something, and didn't let many know about it. If so, poor from a PR point, as I said, there is a goldmine of Essendon-like puff-pieces which can be written and supplied to the rags about that sort of thing. Also poor communications from the club to the fans.

And why do you care why I come out swinging anyway? You're coming across as very defensive, Cazzes.

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2 games in Sydney this year not enough??

I want the players to rehab properly, maybe get some free time to unwind and then get back to melbourne.

A clinic at a local footy club mid-season isnt a high priority.

The AFL are spending a lot off moolah in NSW to promote Sydney/GWS. The time, money and effort required by a Victorian club to fight against that is probably seen as high with low reward. I'd like to see the existing carlton fans looked after esp so their kids don't defect but in a world of finite resources, don't expect too much. A clinic of 3-4 players might have been reasonable though.

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Yeah, I see your point, but totally disagree that a clinic at a local footy club isn't a priority.

If Carlton wants to move forward and combat the level of support and money in Sydney that Collingwood and Essendon* have invested, they have to start, or we'll just keep falling further and further behind.

The next match is a 10 day gap. That would easily give the guys time to spend half a day at an oval with a local club, and even one more night overnight in Sydney unwinding, and still have more time to head back to Melbourne and ready themselves for the next match than normally is available.

The fact that the AFL is spending the money in Sydney means nothing. As you observed, the AFL is spending money promoting one club (and 2 in the future), not the game overall. That means if Carlton wants to profit from that in terms of support and membership, then Carlton has to invest, not rely on the AFL.

We have plenty of Sydney supporters posting here. How many know which club is affiliated with Carlton, or even if we have an affiliated club? Whose fault is that?

Seriously, it's like you guys think I'm expecting the players to front up and play the next day for a local club.

And there were 2 games in Sydney this year? Really?

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Canberra - Sydney, same shit.

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T E A M

I was thinking you might say something like that

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I think KK is on the money and knows what he's talking about.

I get to see the Bluebaggers a bit around the country, but I don't think we should stop growing the brand nationally.

I don't know if that means much to many but when the national surveys for the most supported teams showed that we had in excess of 600,000 supporters in 1995, but dropped down to below 200,000 in 2008, well I think that tells all of us that brand aweness was neglected and we've paid the cost for that.

We are no longer a poor club despite the huge debt we have: we can service that.
A few more dollars promoting our team interstate will go a long way for the future of our club, regardless if some think otherwise.
There's plenty of good reasons to do so.

Sponsors are attracted to clubs with good national presence and there's not too many of those. In 2011 we still had a little problem attracting sponsors despite the great expeosure the AFL have given us on FTA and favourable draw.
I'm sure the club will continue to appreciate our interstate following when CFC plays there, and make the players feel that we're on a neutral ground such is our interstate support. Well we must continue to grow that.

The AFL are doing sweet FA promoting Carlton in NSW; that's the club's job.

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I care because as a supporter I'm sick and tired of posters hanging shite on the club based on zero facts and madeup information. You are throwing mud at the Club and you don't even know if you are are right or wrong. Why don't you get off your arse and phone the club to find out if there was anything arranged before you dis anyone within arms reach at the Club. And if you find out you are right and nothing was arranged then ask why. If you don't get an acceptable explanantion then you have a right to feel aggreived and then you can raise the roof.

I have no idea if there was anything on but surely common sense would dictate you make the necessary phone call before you carry on about it.

I'm coming off defensive because you are too lazy to make 1 phone call to find out all the facts.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

Fair point, CM. I will call the Club tomorrow.

I do, however take issue with you calling me lazy. With 1.9 children, including a 17-month old, a wife who is barely mobile and needs all sorts of help, and other extended family and friend duties, and working freelance, my time is at a premium. Like I said, the club has been active in contacting NSW members previously but not this time.

You would have to agree though, that facts or no, it's really a very poor PR look for the club. This has to change.

I would like nothing more than that impression I and others have of the club to change for the better. But all the action in that department seems not to come from Royal Parade (the place, not the poster).

Alas I see the lack of communication about whether the boys were in Sydney to rest and recover, hold a clinic, or perform jazz at The Basement a frustrating symptom of a wider malaise and amateurishness in the club.

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Yeah, well, there is that......

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