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Molly hit the nail on the head with Yarran's 1st quarter against Freo. Showed glimpses of class.

He's just a kid and I'm happy we got him.

Rich, Rich, Rich, he's good and good on him. But I don't care about him, no point stressing about what you don't have.

That is such a poor comment. It's 3 months into their careers. Do you have a crystal ball? Do you know how their careers will pan out?

You really need to get over it. You sound like a little kid that thinks he's got the worst toy in the world.

Just like we should have picked Lachy Hansen over Bryce Gibbs. They were rated about the same but Lachy was a Vic boy - no go home factor, and we needed a CHB more than any other position on our list.He was a mature body and ready to go, plus, you can get mid-fielders later in the draft, Grigg went at 19 after all.

I dunno, I don't like the idea of Betts, Yarran and Garlett in the team at once.

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Agreed. If Yarran's even a 10th as good as he's supposed to be, he'll give us more up forward that Fisher is. I know yesterday was a tough day for forwards, but Fisher really gives us nothing.

yarran is a work in progress and it will take him a couple of seasons to build his tank and physique.
Has exquisite foot skills and is a naturally gifted footballer and with guys like juddy,walks and scotland who are fantastic trainers and extemeley fit he can only learn from the best.
Will be interesting to see after a full pre-season just how much he improves coz he got it all there, its just up 2 the individual on how commited and determined he is to be the best he can be! Daniel rich is a young gun but he doesnt play for the Carlton Football Club and chris yarran does! Nuff said!

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I understand that Rich may not have much more upside in his game but he is the pick of this draft thus far and Yarran is going to have to improve massively to match or even overtake Daniel.
I know that these comparison are frustrating on this forum but this a pick we will rue for a long time

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C'mon Blueboys!

I am happy to wait and see.
It really does not warrant 5 pages of will he won't he make it or Rich is better. 2011 is the time for the comparisons.

..why..?.. ..at the time of drafting the Gibblet, we had the amazin' capitano Lance runnin' about at CHB, and were considering the eventual move of Waitey back there too.. ..more's the point, the Gibblet was a stand-out no.1, and actually i reckon we were lucky to have 3 stand-out picks in our yrs of first choice.. ..and back in those days we had dire need all over the ground in regards to field holes to pick kids for.. ..and as for Hansen bein' a matuire bod, i reckon the Giblet has played many a more senior game, and he too was afl ready from the get go..

..actually, at the time of their draft, i think we had more holes than CHB.. ..FB and Ruck spring to mind, and a big need for quality mids too..

..but i think you've missed a few points i was raising.. ..if the Gibblet does eventually wanna go home, we've got good service out of him for [so far] every year he's on our list.. ..if a player takes say 3 years to play good footy, and they go home in their 4th yr, you only really had 1 yr out of them.. ..seriously, the 3 yrs prior gave us more a name on a list, than good consistent senior footy service..

..i fully understand and appreciate the youth factor in regards to Yaz, and how he'll prolly need at least 1 yr to get up to speed [bottom aged when drafted].. ..my gripe was more in thinking our list was at a stage where we could wait for our young quality kid to actually produce quality football.. ..and that a silky HFF wasn't our only concern regarding team selection, nor our biggest concern in my opinion.. ..and we could have drafted another that did address a larger concern, and could have provided a more immediate impact..

..again, i wanna reiterate that i'm not bagging Yaz, more the decision behind recruiting him.. ..i do think that Yaz definately has skills of high standard so he can play afl talent wise no dramas, and injury aside i cant see why he wont make it.. ..it's just those in charge thinking we have the time to wait for such a young kid to come on and deliver for us across hff, and possibly ignore other issues which i think are more important.. ..one being of an in and under mid that's strong, tenacious and possessing a v.accurate penetrating kick.. ..and not needin' to wait to get quality footy.... ..i reckon we were a year or two away from picking a v.young kid that plays across hff..

..we have quality we can play across the hff, if anything a player like Rich would allow a player like the Gibblet to roam the half forward line, and lead up.. ..hell, that's where we all want him playing, more forward of center.. ..it's not just picking a kid to fill a spot, but also trying to get a kid that fills a spot and also enables creativity with others already on your list in regards to team selection..

..a bottom aged kid, any bottom aged kid takes time to deliver.. ..like Watts for instance, who being kpp could take even longer for the dee's, being so young.. ..the dawks waited for Ellis, who i'm not sold on personally, not when they coulda gone pendlebum or ryder..

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..rightly said, and i will support Yaz, and hope he comes on sooner rather than later.. ..and i'll support the club no matter what cos i love it, but i will at times disagree with choices, and other times be dissappointed.. ..it's like family..

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Absolutely, some of the crap that goes forwards and backwards and takes up 5 pages is astonishing.......as you say, worthy of discussion in 3 years time when Yarran has a couple of pre-seasons in to him and Black and Power have retired and Rich and his dwarf arms and hands are carrying the Lions midfield.

Yarran has played 3 games for cripes sakes.

Not sure on the comparison, they are totally different players.

If the argument is that we would be better suited with a midfielder than a creative half forward, than thats a fair discussion point.

But as far as suggesting one player is better than another at this stage of their development is silly. They are completely different body size and shape. Everybody knew that he would be the most advanced player selected in last years draft. The recruiters understood this, reflecting the number at which he was selected.

Rich is enjoying the company of a couple of premieship midfielders taking the brunt of the heat, not to mention a number of seasoned players pushing 100 games, rotating through the middle. I am not suggesting he is not a good player, in fact I believe he has very good skills with a fantastic kicking effiiceincy.

The question is, what else does he bring??? Is he quick and nimble enough to play as a clever half forward?? Is he good enough to contest the ball in the air?? Is he quick enough to play as that creative half back??

What we are told, is that Yarran has all the tools and skills to play in all these roles, he is coming from a far way back, in terms of preparation. The beauty is that we are in a position that we can develop Yarran and Co. correctly. The development structure is working, we need to be patient.

The test will be in the length of the highlights reel!!! I'm betting it will be far more enjoyable than Rich's!!

Go Blues!!!!

Mods, can you fix the spelling mistake in the thread's title?

Yarran - Like a fine whine

kthxbai

Harden the @#$%&! up and think further ahead than tomorrow.

Sooks.

this thread is a bit rich

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

..and you don't think we could have addressed another hole on the field with a young kid that takes care of today and tomorrow..?.. ..why is it sooking to think a mistake may have been made..?.. ..are we all too proud now that we can not admit we might make a mistake..?..

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Can't admit what we haven't made

Nicely put Buzz.

..hehe, nicely put.. ..i was more sayin' that it's good to be able to question things, it need not be havin' a whinge automatically..

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..badbuzz, initially this thread was more about Yarran, and him slowly maturing like a fine wine.. ..i didn't mean to directly compare the players since obviously they play diff roles for a team.. ..my point was more in regards to the fact that our team needed both roles filled, and we had options to choose and we opted for a silky hff.. ..if said decision is to help out Fev and our forward set-up, and this plan takes a few years to reach fruition.. ..not sure how much help Fev gets ya dig..

..i reckon real midfield dominance needs a good blend of elite mids.. ..and we still lack that elite, a-grade in and under player.. ..also none of our a-grade mids has a particularly penetrating kick [extra-long].. ..i also believe that a midfield quartet of a-grade ruck and 3 a-grade mids can make any half decent forward-line look great.. ..wce was carried by their fab-4, all the way to the top..

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