i think your being far to generous here.

we have a poor functioning forward line with no depth. It's going to take time to introduce some talented forwards with so many picks in the draft when we also need a good in and under, a ball carrying line breaking midfielder and not to mention our poor foot skills.

some tough decisions have to be made in regards to trading players away this year to introduce some quality into this side.

Still crap.
Go and support Adelaide if you want to see that boring footy.
And it doesnt win flags.geelong showed that last year.
It has its place but not for that long.
And 2m 4s.

The problem is we dont have guys that
1 Are smart enough to make position
2 Players with breakneck speed
3Players that can really kick long
to break that zoning

If I was a skills coach I seriously would teach all guys to kick a torp.
Break the lines and take the game on.
It serves very little purpose when it starts at the 20 m mark and your 20 odd points down.
You are virtually conceding to the opposition you have no chance
Thats bullshit.

Yep we need more targets up forward.

Collingwood :- Medust DIdak Cloke Rocca Davis
Cats:- Johnson mooney Burns Stokes Abblett
Hawks :- Buddy Ruffhead Williams Hodge Rioli
Bulldogs:- Welsh Jonston Cooney Aker Hahn Murphy
Carlton: Fev Betts

I think we lack midfieders that can rotate through the forward line that can kick goals. We lack medium size forwards that create options ( i reckon Edwards isnt nimble enough and lacks urgency).

Also i feel we might be barking up the wrong tree having an old fashion full forward. As great a player as fev is and i love the guy i do feel that we may have flogged that tactic to death and we should start a new forward line from scratch.

Con - Lack of awareness of opposition players when disposing of the pill.

Will improve with experience I presume..

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It lasted for 2mins.

There's still 24mins in the quarter to play attacking footy.

Teach the players to break the zone by kicking torps? How quickly do you want to turn it over and see the ball coming back over your head?

We're not skillfull enough to hit targets with drop punts, let alone torps and with all those numbers the opposition have back we're virtually handing them the ball.

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Con or positive?

Browne and Armfield have shown more in their combined total of 6 games than Bentick, Russell and Wiggins have in 191.

Pros:
- Getting to see Geelong strut there stuff first hand. Steve Johnson is a freak with those over the shoulder handballs, it's a 6th sense alright.
- Armfield great debut. Showed lots of balls and wasn't afraid to take them on.
- Cloke and Thornton's return
- The ability to keep control of the ball late in the second quarter and to be rewarded with a goal.
- The Geelong supporter i was sitting next, good bloke.
- I still think were a good chance vs Port next week.
- The Judd steal from a Geelong kick out (POTW M&D? )

Cons:
- Bower's injury. We bring back a defender but lose another one at the same time
- The scoreboard would look much worse if they converted early shots.
- Lack of awareness alot of the time, might not be talking enough although.
- Delivery to Fevola and other forwards

Pros
Won 4 out of 10 a vast improvement on last year
Fev had a frustrating night but didnt do anything stupid beat his bogey man in Scarlett -3 goals
Debut of no 27 great effort and speed
JUDD is brilliant -genius out of stoppages -used to think I had seen it all with Greg Williams
Didnt lose by 100 -could have done it
Another game Hampson Cruise gibbs bower grigg browne
46000 plus at dome -we continue to get big crowds to our games whether home or away
Setanta did ok on Hawkins
Cons
Need to bolster forward line - not sure why EDWARDS got dropped
Fisher one of my favourites but this year is not nearly as good last
Not enough talk -guys who were hot not even talked to
Waite stupid act last week would have been handy
Injuries they are really hurting now particularly off backline - walker jamison bower all first picked for backline
losing the ball at hbf after kick out

Well we were 3 out of 10, then 4 out of 11, which if we lost to Port will be exactly the same as last year.

So the priority pick is still on?!?!

PROS
No 27, looks a player
Browne - continues to impress, better skills than the likes of Carrots, Wiggo, Russell, and hes only played 5 games!
Gibbs - Showed good smarts, definitely getting there.
Overall - Young boys would of learnt a lot (the ones who will make it Kruze, Hammer, Grigg (?), Bower (shame he got injured)

CONS
Re-inforced Wiggo, Russell, Carrots & Fisher are never going to be main men in the team if we are serious about going places. We still need to turn over the list a bit more
Setanta - I have seen enough, should be his last game for the Blues. Just doesn't have the footy smarts, and never will.
Not being able to lift and take advantage of Geelong's lairising and inaccurate kicking in the first half which left us only 13 points down
Tackling was not at the intensity required (should come though with experience/bigger bodies)

How much more quality do you want you whinger? We've had the cream of the last three drafts and Chris Judd. We've done better than expected with picks like Betts and Cloke. Jammo was a rookie. Hadley was a steal. Late picks like Browne and Armfield look the goods. We have boys still to come through from the Ants to show their worth in Anderson and Benjamin. We have a player like Pfeiffer dropped after sealing the game for us last week- because we have the depth to do so now.

And they are all kids learning what it takes whilst contending against bigger bodied, more seasoned sides.

What do supporters (sic) like you expect from a season like this? That we beat the reigning premiers and win ever other game then hold the cup aloft at the end? You'd still be bitching then, about how we should have won the premiership by more and if reactionary changes aren't made then we'll not win a game again for what, a million years? You'll be happy as a pig if the Blues don't move forward because it's the only time you comment you negative twit.

The side showed promise in patches last night against far and away the best side of the last two years. We are building a solid senior side. We will have to expect that their will be dips.

However, we are massively improving and if you can't see that then you don't want to.

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good work Whip........!


kindest regards tommi

















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Agree 100%.

Also 3 years off finals footy? Why? Collingwood lost a few weeks back to Hawthorn by over 10 goals, does that mean their 3 years off too?
I think we will be playing finals footy next year, I don't know how last night would of changed anyones opinion of our side more positive or negative. For us to win last night would of meant we are a bona fide finals contender.

No doubt we on the up. We have many holes in this list and are no way near a top 4 side even top 8 with our current list and changes have to be made.

I hardly see what i wrote as having a whinge. Like you i only want the best for this club.

I have acknowledged our improvement on many a times but am not one who thinks or is getting ahead of myself as to where we are at. I never ever thought we would get close against the cats same with lions. I know exactly where we are at and its a long way off but slowly pecking back the margin

Fatalism does not equate to the apparent pragmatic approach you believe you espouse.

its a particulative spline

It's 'particulate' you try-hard egghead.

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And changes will be made, I mean if you got rid of every single player you thought wasnt going to get you to a premiership in one hit, you would delist like 25 players. I think with us its more about our younger guys stepping up becoming stars (Gibbs, Murph, Kruezer, Browne, Bower, Jammo, Walks), rather than getting rid of every player who has a deficiency in their game, and replace him with what? Some guy at 93 in the draft who may never play?

The changes you suggest Melvey WILL happen (ie. sifting through our list to make it better), just from where we have come from (having a list with no value) it takes time.

It does take time and i'm more than happy to sit back and wait to get it right.

I think now than ever is where we have to make the right decisions in regards to list management/drafting/trading as we in past years have made poor decisons. The foundation has been laid with Gibbs, Murph, Krooze and Judd now we need to get the support act right to become a force once again