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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
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So here is a scenario:
Let's say Doc gets back on the park next year (fingers crossed).
Do we keep this dual Captain nonsense going or do we just lay it down and call it for what it is, fluff?
Because, Cripps has undoubtably proven this year he is the leader of the club. He shows all the attributes of being the Captain on and off the field. Plus he can will his way into a game and change the coarse of it, by himself.
Is it time to make him the sole Captain with Doc as vice (providing he plays again)?
It would be interesting to know what Cripps thinks of it and what effect that will have on his tenure as a blue.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:47 am 
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Perhaps Cripps isn't interested in the off field stuff. Perhaps Doc is a great leader tactically etc.
Without being in the inner sanctum, how would any of us know? I prefer to leave it to those in the know.
If they think joint captains are the way to go, I don't see a problem.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:54 am 
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Sidefx wrote:
So here is a scenario:
Let's say Doc gets back on the park next year (fingers crossed).
Do we keep this dual Captain nonsense going or do we just lay it down and call it for what it is, fluff?
Because, Cripps has undoubtably proven this year he is the leader of the club. He shows all the attributes of being the Captain on and off the field. Plus he can will his way into a game and change the coarse of it, by himself.
Is it time to make him the sole Captain with Doc as vice (providing he plays again)?
It would be interesting to know what Cripps thinks of it and what effect that will have on his tenure as a blue.


On the one hand you calling it fluff, (FTR I'm not) then on the other you want to know what Cripps thinks.

Looking for issues which may not even be there>

I think it turned out a good thing having 2 captains when a bonafide captain went down with a knee for the season and yet we still have a bonafide captain leading the resurgence.

Strength in numbers.

Doesn't seem to be an issue. The place is rocking and I'm sure that's all anyone on our list cares about given where we have come from.

Lets all head to N0 17 asap with everyone in the selected 22 as a leader.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:56 am 
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Perhaps Cripps isn't interested in the off field stuff. Perhaps Doc is a great leader tactically etc.
Without being in the inner sanctum, how would any of us know? I prefer to leave it to those in the know.
If they think joint captains are the way to go, I don't see a problem.


Its not a problem until we hear its a problem.

All the other problems we had with list management and list seem to have worked themselves out over time.

I can't see why anyone would want to rock the cart or leave this team at the minute.

In fact, it seems Carlton is the place to be, 2 captains or 1, new coach or one on training wheels, SOS or no SOS, Kreuzer or Philips....

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
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I wasn't a fan of the co-captain thing but it's one thing not making a bloke co-captain to start with, another thing entirely to take it away. I would be pissed if I were Doc and had my armband (soccer fan here) taken away before I'd even stepped back on the park. Let it be.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
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Sidefx wrote:
... Because, Cripps has undoubtably proven this year he is the leader of the club. He shows all the attributes of being the Captain on and off the field. Plus he can will his way into a game and change the coarse of it, by himself.....


Yep, that's the kind of captain Steve Smith was too...

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
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Sidefx wrote:
So here is a scenario:
Let's say Doc gets back on the park next year (fingers crossed).
Do we keep this dual Captain nonsense going or do we just lay it down and call it for what it is, fluff?
Because, Cripps has undoubtably proven this year he is the leader of the club. He shows all the attributes of being the Captain on and off the field. Plus he can will his way into a game and change the coarse of it, by himself.
Is it time to make him the sole Captain with Doc as vice (providing he plays again)?
It would be interesting to know what Cripps thinks of it and what effect that will have on his tenure as a blue.
Besides, how do you know? I mean, how do YOU know?

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
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My two cents worth (what I’ve heard) is that Cripps is very much an on-field captain and that Docherty is still very much the off-Field Captain, and keeps the troops on the “straight and narrow”, including Cripps.

As I hear the arrangement of Co-Captains definitely will remain.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
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My two cents worth (what I’ve heard) is that Cripps is very much an on-field captain and that Docherty is still very much the off-Field Captain, and keeps the troops on the “straight and narrow”, including Cripps.

As I hear the arrangement of Co-Captains definitely will remain.


That makes sense and is a great arrangement.

A lot of responsibility these days as full time footballers for one captain to work with the 45 players on the list

Back in the old days of semi professional the captain would be the first to biff someone if their rovers got hit, and lead the pie night, gambling and beer supply.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
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AGRO wrote:
My two cents worth (what I’ve heard) is that Cripps is very much an on-field captain and that Docherty is still very much the off-Field Captain, and keeps the troops on the “straight and narrow”, including Cripps.

As I hear the arrangement of Co-Captains definitely will remain.


Also, having a captain in the backline and a captain playing mid/forward is good thinking in modern day footy due to no runners allowed on the ground.

They are responsible ensuring team structures and player motivation is on track.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:15 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
So here is a scenario:
Let's say Doc gets back on the park next year (fingers crossed).
Do we keep this dual Captain nonsense going or do we just lay it down and call it for what it is, fluff?
Because, Cripps has undoubtably proven this year he is the leader of the club. He shows all the attributes of being the Captain on and off the field. Plus he can will his way into a game and change the coarse of it, by himself.
Is it time to make him the sole Captain with Doc as vice (providing he plays again)?
It would be interesting to know what Cripps thinks of it and what effect that will have on his tenure as a blue.


On the one hand you calling it fluff, (FTR I'm not) then on the other you want to know what Cripps thinks.

Looking for issues which may not even be there>

I think it turned out a good thing having 2 captains when a bonafide captain went down with a knee for the season and yet we still have a bonafide captain leading the resurgence.

Strength in numbers.

Doesn't seem to be an issue. The place is rocking and I'm sure that's all anyone on our list cares about given where we have come from.

Lets all head to N0 17 asap with everyone in the selected 22 as a leader.


The fluff is having a captain off the field. Pointless really. And was probably instated to keep both parties happy when most would've put Cripps down as captain by himself.

Cleary you fall in the camp of participation trophies for everyone. That's cool. Not my thing.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
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moshe25 wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
... Because, Cripps has undoubtably proven this year he is the leader of the club. He shows all the attributes of being the Captain on and off the field. Plus he can will his way into a game and change the coarse of it, by himself.....


Yep, that's the kind of captain Steve Smith was too...

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
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Walsh wrote:
AGRO wrote:
My two cents worth (what I’ve heard) is that Cripps is very much an on-field captain and that Docherty is still very much the off-Field Captain, and keeps the troops on the “straight and narrow”, including Cripps.

As I hear the arrangement of Co-Captains definitely will remain.


Also, having a captain in the backline and a captain playing mid/forward is good thinking in modern day footy due to no runners allowed on the ground.

They are responsible ensuring team structures and player motivation is on track.


Isn't this why you have a leadership group and not a midfield, forward line, back line and ruck captain?


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
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Geez, tough crowd. Clearly what if scenarios are not a hit. Peeps be too serious.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
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Geez, tough crowd. Clearly what if scenarios are not a hit. Peeps be too serious.


Are you Blackwell?

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Geez, tough crowd. Clearly what if scenarios are not a hit. Peeps be too serious.


Are you Blackwell?


Without knowing what this means kind sir, I prefer to sit on the fence without an answer. :grin:


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