Jon Ralph went with the same thing on foxfooty.

Good.

If this is true, this means the club stands for something other than being a walking mat for other clubs. Carlton has to hold onto some of its star players. At least one or two of them anyway.


I love this quote from the ex-north president (forgotten his name...but he was on that show Talking Footy) James?


''I don’t reckon anyone would begrudge that man (Murphy) if he decided to leave and go somewhere else. He has done enough at this footy club through some pretty dark years."

Can you smell the condescending attitude? ''he has done ENOUGH at this footy club'' he says. Murphy is just a product to people like this North president.

The North Melbourne president basically saying that an AFL designed system to keep clubs down the bottom of the ladder for years on end (Euphemistically called "Rebuilding") is just something a rubbish club like Carlton has to accept.

The media bias between Carlton and other teams is astounding. Carlton shouldn't keep Murphy they say, but at the same time there is a frantic media demand that Lynch stays at the Gold Coast "for the good of the game" of course.

I Will be looking with interest to see what assistance the AFL gives the Gold Coast at the end of this season, especially if they lose Lynch.


“the AFL has to tell the other clubs were going to give them (Gold Coast) concessions. I don’t know if its more money in the salary cap to get some development people there. I believe they have to add some draft picks. Even if they trade them and get ready made players. It can’t continue. They can’t just wither." Craig Hutchison.

Remember this quote November 2018. I wonder what compensation Gold Coast will get for Lynch...so much of a mystery. There is so much concern in the media for the plight of Gold Coast. I am crying for them. Crying, crying, crying. AFL step in and assist them.

just reading about the mess over at north. 30 million in a "war chest" to spend. offering massive overs on all kinds of elite players, and being turned down methodically, one-by-one by all of them. De goey taking a $3.6million pay cut to stay with the pies? is that good or bad? loyalty from de goey is good, but it's bad for league wide parity, yeah?

imo, that there is a current problem with the AFL. teams trying to get into the elite end of the comp, are routinely shutout from that happening.

all this doesn't bode terribly well for us and our aspirations of landing an elite mid or really, two... in their minds coming over here in the prime of their career to be bashed from pillar to post (see Judd, Chris) and probably not even play finals footy is a massive ask.

Exactly, clubs that are tier 3 will never land an A grade midfielder through trading. Carlton was effectively the last club to do it with Judd on the back of Pratt power, Carlton’s reputation etc.

Since then, the competition has changed- 18 teams, an AFL designer free agency, trading for draft picks, no priority picks etc. Their policies have contributed to this mess etc.

Judd was effectively the last A grade player to go from a tier 1 club to a tier 3 club. There is more chance of me going to the moon than Carlton recruiting Rory Sloane, Shiel, etc

Yes...
But Charlie, Crippa, Dow, Fisher, Simmo and Carlton area. Oh and forgot we will have a defensive line back too headed by Doch.
So maybe they will be forward thinkers.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

Richmond got Caddy out of Geelong and Prestia, albeit from GC when they looked more likely to fall apart than succeed.

McKay's replacement might well define our future

Prestia committed to Richmond a year ahead of actually going, after Richmond had made the finals.

True, but thy were still considered flakey and had come off a poor year.

Richmond had made the finals 2013, 2014 & 2015. They weren’t tier 3.
Geelong getting rid of Caddy a huge mistake by Geelong.

There are many clubs that don’t have to do a “full rebuild”.

The guys on Fox Footy are saying that if a team is out of finals for years on end then extra draft picks should be forthcoming. The problem is the AFL only wants to help GC and the Lions. The trick is - how do you assist those clubs whilst bypassing a worse club in Carlton?

Will be fascinating to see how they engineer it.

Not that I care anymore because it's all become a corruption and we are irrelevant to the AFL now. They got what they wanted with CFC, but Brisbane received a PP (pick 19 ?) and no one raised an eyebrow. Carlton didn't and we have been just as bad, if not worse.
They (Brisbane) will receive more help shortly and watch StKilda & GC be next in line. The AFL will help anyone except for Carlton - fact!!!!

They gave Brisbane a priority pick after finishing with 3 wins. Carlton is unlikely to get more than 3 wins this year, but you watch, no priority pick ... even pick 17, 18 or 19 will be forthcoming as we all know Brisbane’s 3 wins is much more dire for the game than Carlton’s 1 win.

They will design something to assist bne at the end of the year. The financial dividends they give to each club is one mechanism open to them.

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They gave Brisbane a priority pick after finishing with 3 wins. Carlton is unlikely to get more than 3 wins this year, but you watch, no priority pick ... even pick 17, 18 or 19 will be forthcoming as we all know Brisbane’s 3 wins is much more dire for the game than Carlton’s 1 win.

They will design something to assist bne at the end of the year. The financial dividends they give to each club is one mechanism open to them. END QUOTE

They don't need to design or engineer anything - Carlton have handed them the answer by saying they won't APPLY for a priority pick.

I'm not too sure on Kruezers contract situation or his cap hit but I would look at moving him on. An injury prone ruckman who will be 30 next season.. I'd jump at a 3rd -4th round pick.

such a loyal player.
does he deserve to be tossed aside like that?
I hope not.
I for one value him and would be horrified if we attempted to move him on.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

It’s a culture we’ve built BG. Don’t stress over it.

Absolutely not

Gold Coast will get band 1 compo for Lynch and a PP. the question will be whether the PP comes at the start of the first round.

I'd like to see a system of draft picks based on finishes over the past 5 years.

Total Points is calculated based on the maximum points accrued over 5 years (18 * 5) - their ladder position on each year.

Y1 Y2 Y3 Y4 Y5 Total Pts
Brisbane 17 18 17 17 15 6
Carlton 18 16 14 18 13 11
Gold Coast 15 17 15 16 12 15
St Kilda 16 11 9 14 18 22
Essendon* 12 8 18 15 7 30
Melbourne 6 9 11 13 17 34
Collingwood 4 13 12 12 11 38
Fremantle 13 14 16 3 5 39
Bulldogs 14 10 1 8 14 43
GWS 10 3 3 11 16 47
Nth Melb 8 15 8 4 4 51
Adelaide 11 2 6 6 10 55
Port 5 7 10 9 3 56
Geelong 7 4 4 10 6 59
Richmond 1 1 13 7 8 60
Hawthorn 9 12 5 1 1 62
West Coast 3 6 7 2 9 63
Sydney 2 5 2 5 2 74

Eliminates tanking as realistically if you take 5 years to rebuild, your club is stuffed. Also encourages top clubs to rebuild quicker (Under this system, Hawthorn would still have third highest pick despite missing finals two years running)

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They don't need to design or engineer anything - Carlton have handed them the answer by saying they won't APPLY for a priority pick.[/quote=ianh]

Cain Liddle is out of his depth by showing how "Strong" Carlton is by closing the door on even considering a priority pick. They've won 1 game so far. Unlikely to be more than 3 wins...Carlton's worst ever season. There seems to be a real disconnect between reality and expectations of a "Rebuild".

Caro and the Melbourne media mafia have decided Carlton doesn't deserve the priority pick (or any assistance -even financial) and said so on Footy Classified. This would seem to indicate Carlton has no chance of getting picks or anything. Supply and demand. The AFL knows they have rusted on supporters for Carlton. Can take them for granted.


Caro stated “Carlton know they wouldn’t have got one and I think its politically correct, it’s a gutsy call, the right thing to do and I don’t think Carlton deserve a priority pick,….it will only make them look more desperate. They’re only in this situation through their own mistakes”

Oh really? "own mistakes"?

So let me decipher this: Caro is saying:
AFL assistance to North to set up in Tasmania, giving them large dividends= that's good news. Not "own mistakes"
AFL assistance to Melbourne - extra picks, the farcical compensation for losing Frawley= that's good news. not done due to Melbourne's "own mistakes"
etc etc. Sydney (Academy picks, COLA etc), Hawthorn, Geelong, GWS, Brisbane etc assistance given not for "own mistakes"


Carlton asking for one lousy draft pick at pick 17, 18 or 19....= now that is evil! positively evil..and should never be tolerated.
Evil I say...evil.

I think Carlton and Brisbane should get two picks eg pick 18, 29 Carlton and 19, 30 for Brisbane...then at least they can use those draft picks for trading. Maybe they could placate the media mafia- picks can only be used for trading? Something, anything.