So, where are TCers all sitting?

Section Q here, will need an oxygen mask.

So, where are TCers all sitting?

Section Q here, will need an oxygen mask.

Agree. Cincotta on Papley, Marchbank on Hayward

i’ve only looked at the stats, missed the first half of the game but Gawn was massacred in the hit outs by Cox and break even with Pies 2nd ruck D. Cameron.

Q1 HO 10 v 3 v 6 respectively. (Gawn, Cox, Cameron)
Q2 HO 6 v 8 v 2
Q3 HO 10 v 8 v 6
Q4 HO 12 v 8 v 0 (subbed out)

Gawn finally found an edge in ruck as his team lifted.

of course Gawn’s immense value is from more than tap work at stoppages. reflected in his AF and metres gained scores.

Q1 AF 24 v 23 v 27 v 7 (cox, gawn, cameron, mcdonald)
Q2 AF 11 v 37 v 8 v 3
Q3 AF 16 v 30 v 22 v 6
Q4 AF 11 v 36 v 0 (subbed out) v 16

All AF Gawn 126 (2nd placed to oliver)
Cox 62 — 19th so middle ranked.
Cameron 57 — similar
McDonald 32 — 5th from the bottom.


Metres Gained:
Q1 MG 0 v 0 v 0 v 0 (cox, gawn, cameron, mcdonald)
Q2 MG 16 v 121 v -12 v 0
Q3 MG 0 v 0 v 0 v 0
Q4 MG 0 v 0 v 0 v 0

MG all game (this doesn’t add up at all, stats from offical AFL app)
Gawn 489m
Cox 56m
Cameron 45m (subbed out)
McDonald 46m


so it’s apples and oranges really but overall McDonald emerges as the weakest link in that group of four talls who ruck and can play up forward or drop back as a defensive marking/spoiling extra to slow opposition momentum.


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I get the fear, but our team is young, Voss is a really good coach and our football department is good also and we have stability at the club for the first time in decades.
Plus the fact we are in the finals at 5th, we will have more talent wanting to come to the club furthering our chances.
For me this is the start, not like last time with Band-aid solutions and sacking coaches at a whim.
Different times, different club.
We've finally caught up to modern football and its management.

The biggest thing for me tonight is Sydney were grand finalists last year and they know what to expect, they'll be prepared and tough.
And we are poor in our scoring from turnovers and they are really good at it but poor in their scoring from contests and we are number 1.
That's why I think Dow will be the sub.
Either way it should be a great game.

As for Marchbank, you can't replace the 7th defender on the bench with a forward.
And Doc needs to be on the wing.

I suspect there is a bit too much weight given to Champion Data stats re our scores from turnover.
Yes, we are a contested team but at our best we win the contest and keep the ball moving forward at great speed with overlap run. We might not start that with a direct turnover but we do stop other teams in their tracks, cause a stoppage and then brutalise it from there.

Voss knows what he’s doing. Just like McRae did last night too - despite all the complaints from Collingwood supporters before the game about Cox and dropping Noble.

It’s not like we don’t have any small forwards, we do.
It’s not like Marchbank can only play as a tall defender - he can run all day.
Heeney ‘beat’ Cripps last time when Cripps was clearly out of form or injured and even then, they actually broke even. Yes, he kept him to 19 possessions but Heeney played out of his skin and Crippa was at his lowest. I wish they put Heeney on Cripps tonight - Crippa will be best on ground.

After the last 3 months, and having the opportunity to test every player on the list and see them at their best, and given Voss’ finals credentials, I’m gonna back his choices over anyone on this site (and most commentators too).

We may not win but one thing I believe - there is no more formidable finals leadership combination than Voss and Cripps right now. I have confidence they will give us our best shot from team selection, to game plan, to execution on the field.


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So, where are TCers all sitting?

Section Q here, will need an oxygen mask.

A few Carlton fans here at Sydney airport.

Heaps of Swans as expected in a Final.

Confident and unconfident fans on both sides.

I haven’t been so calm since Kouta did his knee.

So, where are TCers all sitting?

Section Q here, will need an oxygen mask.

So, where are TCers all sitting?

Section Q here, will need an oxygen mask.

So, where are TCers all sitting?

Section Q here, will need an oxygen mask.

Suspect half the Carlton fans passed through the Carlton shop at Ikon Park today - club would have made a killing!

Especially from that $800 "Can you smell that we're stronger together" scarf...