showbag wrote:
what about the fourth group of people who have wanted Fev gone at any cost and hide it behind a bunch of psuedo-intellectual psycho babble in an attempt to give their post extra weight?
I can only assume you are referring to me Showbag.
I will state my preferences loud and clear, in very simple English.
I do not want Fev gone 'at any cost'. I would absolutely and categorically refuse any trade that does not give us the value that equates to trading Fev.
My preference is actually to have Brendan Fevola playing great football for the next 6 years with Carlton, and being an leader on and off the field. The problem is, we simply do not know whether he is capable of that.
Therefore, if we were to be offered a trade that provided us with value in terms of talent, or what we perceive to be potential talent, that is equal to or better than Fev, with greater reliability and leadership, then I think it is too risky not to go down that path, given the uncertainty in how Fev will be in coming years.
Let me ask a question for all those who think that Fev is being harshly done by...
Can any of you tell me what Brendan Fevola is going to be like in 2008? Or 2009? Or 2010? Can any of you tell me what his attitude will be like then? Can any of you tell me whether he will still be unreliable, still be selfish, still be causing angst?
The answer, quite simply, is no. None of us know. Because Brendan Fevola has NEVER been able to get his act together for more than 9 months, so there is NO evidence that he will be able to.
That doesn't mean he won't get his act together and be a star for the next 6 years and lead us to a flag. He may. But we just don't know. Therefore, IMHO, the best thing that the Club can do is see if it can get a trade that is good for CFC, so that we know the kind of effort and input that we will get from our players.
Otherwise, there is a reasonable chance that this behaviour will continue (again, it may not, but we don't know, and the EVIDENCE to date suggests that his current behaviour is more likely than not to continue), and we will have missed our chance to get value for a trade.
I don't believe we are in a position to take that risk, IF a suitable trade that benefits CFC is on the table.
If a suitable trade is not in the offing, then we have no choice but to take that risk, and we go forwards with fingers crossed.
I hope that's clear enough.
i was referring to you (but with my tongue firmly in cheek) ... and your other post wasn't unclear at all (although i did think it was a bit over the top).
There is no doubt i am a massive Fev fan, but i'll admit to watching the game on Saturday i thought to myself 'this could well be the end of Brendan at Carlton'. I knew those who want to follow the Hawthorn model would be on it like a seagull to a hot chip ...
I just don't feel that we are in a position to get rid of Fev without setting our club backwards a few years. I consider them years we don't have as we have already languished down the bottom for 5 years and people will be certain to jump off if we don't have our favourite player and marketing tool.
I am pretty sure that even in his worst year Fev will contribute 50+ goals (a similar amount to Nathan Thompson in his best years)... i'd be happy to take that as a worst case scenario.
I'd take the PP this year for sure as a reward as a 'freebie' for not winning games, but i'm not prepared to trade a proven matchwinner for the 'potential' that is in the draft (ie. i doubt that Kennedy - as much as i like what i see/hear of him - will ever be the player that Fev is and he was pick 4).
Won't it be interesting if we win this week from dropping the 'bad influence' that is Fev, and as a result we have to trade him to regain the early draft pick that his ommision 'lost' us. ... i wonder what Alanis Morrisette thinks of that ...
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