When the AFL sell off Etihad when they assume full ownership of it in 10 years or so I am sure you will see the Gate E (Footscray Rd) Stadium get a run up the flagpole to see how it salutes.

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They assume ownership in 2025. I would prefer not to be a tenant while awaiting planning approval for an expansion of an additional 25,000 seats. Etihad want Carlton, Carlton should want the MCG - but unlike Collingwood who negotiated with the MCC, all negotiations are done with the AFL. They determine if we get a 7-4 split.

As I said elsewhere come 2025 the AFL will hang a for sale sign on the Etihad Stadium piece of real estate - wont have the balls to resist the dollars that will bring in.

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$1 billion...or thereabouts I would have thought....even more of a reason not to be a tenant...you'd settle in and within a generation of new supporters you'd up and move them to somewhere else. And that'd leave many with uncertainty....and you'd have Eddie McGuire and co basking in the glory of the best contract and social club in the land. Not hard to put marketing PR behind the Pies membership...a little tricky when you're at Docklands and then uncertainty a decade later...don't think Showgrounds is an option anymore? They can't have both. The contract states that no NEW stadiums can be built within 10km of Docklands with a capacity over 30,000.

It's going to be another AFL stuff-up isn't it? Unless we get to the 'G of course....if only for a 7/4 split and some compromise on social club...otherwise, may as well call the MCG 'Collingwood Park' and give it all away.

When the property bubble bursts noone will pay 1 billion for Etihad...
And are we still at we should buy our memberships only so we can get an extra gae or two moved to the G and were saved??

I would like to see something more imaginative and real.......

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Ok Synners - would love to know when the property bubble is going to burst by the way!

BUT (and it's a big but)...the AFL has already considered options for this $1 billion asset which sits on a prime real estate, including even moving to a new stadium site. Because they're probably a little bit limited in expanding too much given what is being built around them. In securing title to Etihad it gives the AFL access to options that they don't have if they don't own the building. They could relocate anywhere.

I don't want a team who one decade plays the majority of its games at Etihad, the next decade at a new 70,000 E-Gate stadium (built at the railyard that lies between North Melbourne train station and Footscray Road)...I want my team to play at the MCG (and please don't tell me to go and follow Richmond).

I don't believe there is any possibility of increasing the capacity of Etihad to 80,000 short of demolishing it and starting again or taking out all the corporate seating/boxes and we know that is not going to happen.

Sure as eggs the for sale sign will go up in 2025 (whether it's 1 billion or 750 million won't matter) and we will be talking about an 80,000 seat stadium at Gate E.

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Etihad will be surrounded by buildings by year end. Expansion isn't impossible unless its turned into a soccer stadium?

Vale Etihad (2000 - 2025).

Didn't even last as long as Waverley as an AFL venue.

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I understand the financial need for a move to the 'G, but spend 30+ years going to AAMI Stadium, or from what I hear Subiaco and you'll understand why some Interstaters think of Etihad as one of the 7 modern wonders of the world!

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Lol yep etihad is awesome compared to subi

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

So? the property bubble wont burst???

and in Australia.. things will remain high as the rest of the world falls apart???... and we will be able to maintain the huge credit bubble???

When things go pop.. and they will... you wont get too many develeopers for Docklands at that kind of $$$$

Plus Docklands has hardly been the London Thames development....

Etihad will be part of the AFL system for another 20 years at least

Either way...

This needs its own thread...

"Wish we played an extra one or two games at the G" thread....

Hardly the huge inovative idea that going to change the Carlton world....

Nice if it happens... but hardly crucial to how were performi ng at board level.... more a muddying of the waters

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Just out of curiosity, who went to the AGM?

The what?

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But if it were George Harris doing it - you'd be all over it. All I'm saying is that I want Carlton at the MCG for a decade. If we're at Etihad post 2014 then it'd had want to be for a hell of a lot more money than the $2.5 million 'signing bonus' we received all those years ago....and I don't think they can afford that. So let's get to the 'G...it's a lot easier sell to supporters and sponsors having a 7-4 split at the 'G than the opposite at Etihad. And if the new E-Gate Stadium is offering Collingwood-like Social Club then consider that deal when it comes up in ten years or so.

Tw extra games will solve our membership problems will they??

Like everyones holding off buying a membership till we play 2 extra games at the G...???

I doubt with the amount of MCC members i know that it will be the case.

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harris was a legend president... we were never in this position under him where we are clinging to straws to be a great club

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Why do you read something and see something completely different. You're worse than Caro!

And what do Carlton supporting MCC members have to do with this?

Listen - I THINK the one thing we CAN agree on is that the demise of suburban AFL grounds and the fact that Etihad only holds 50,000 people means the MCG probably isn't the be-all-and-end-all option post-2025.

What the club needs to do is appoint some sort of steering committee to figure out what the best option is for the club. In my opinion - and perhaps not yours - it's a reversal of home games at Etihad and the MCG to 7-4. Look at Hawthorn and of their 11 home games they play 7 at the MCG, 3 in Tassie and just 1 at Etihad.

Our best option might be to get that 7-4 split going for a decade at the 'G and then negotiate a 'best deal possible' with the new stadium (depending where it is). They'll want tenants and that's likely to involve Essendon* and Carlton as the biggest clubs. I don't really care what the capacity of a new Stadium would be, providing it's on or around the 70,000 and it's within close proximity to the CBD (that doesn't leave a lot of options). The MCC capacity at the MCG is around 23,000, so 70,000 seats is more than enough when you consider you're not putting in a specified area for MCC members.

E-gate Stadium plans were originally drawn up for a boutique AFL stadium. Obviously these plans have been shelved.



HOWEVER... (cue music) the State Government has determined to further progress a proposal to develop the E-Gate site for urban development...OR what equates to 12,000 residents and 200,000 square metres of commercial and associated retail space. So what's the AFL to do? Moorabin? Casey Fields? Oh dear...maybe they just need to build it over the railways off Flinders St.

I don't think it's a coincidence that the bombers are just in front on the membership stakes, they do share a home ground......

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