From purely an historical perspective, I for one will embrace the pending coaching change...

More than any other club we've been known for our off-field 'blues'. From the resignation of John Worrall (because players wanted more control of the club), to Ken Hands and Jim Francis - a friendship that died and never recovered, to George Harris and Alex Jesaulenko right through to Perc, Parkin, Walls, Brittain, Pagan, Ratten, Malthouse and now Bolton...the fights have roared on.

And it's times like these that I miss Wes Lofts. He didn't suffer fools. The band-aid needs to be ripped off. It's the Carlton way.

Thanks OR ... anything regarding the coach ? ...

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Signed they may be.
Committed tonight they were not.

Unless the team starts winning games, we are at risk of losing them to the 'destination clubs'.

I hope you are right but if I were the list manager from a cashed up Geelong, WCE or Hawks, I'd be into Cripps, Charlie and Harry already. Maybe even Walsh.

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Hey BS

Shit situation and not one I was hoping for, I'd hoped BB would succeed. I like him and what he stands for outside of the football field.

As you know, there are various levels of commitment. He hasn't lost the players, but writing is on the wall re their commitment to him and his style.

Regards

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Problem with Ratts is it'd be hard to sack a club legend for a second time if it doesn't work out again. From memory Parko wasn't sacked second time around. He passed the baton on to Britts.

Neither could i..............top stuff Doc.

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Whilst I acknowledge that development isn't a straight line and that it's not a matter of going from point A to point B to point C... If we're basically a development side, we're not showing any development. If you could come away from the game thinking "Yes, we lost, but I can see the improvement", you'd be satisfied. But we're treading water if not going backwards.

I was thinking yesterday 'who is having a good year?' Cripps is. Jones was before injury. Weitering has been solid and Walsh has been good. But that's it. In the seconds you might say Goddard is playing well. Five from 40-odd players is not a great ratio.

So it's hard to assess the coaches or the list, because it seems that everyone at the club is having an average year.

This is how it feels to me. The club has progressed in so many areas but unfortunately it exists to win games of football (plainly obvious) and it’s not. I thought we be in for a 6 win season. And we’re miles off that low bar. He has to go. The players, including their captain, have officially checked out.

At what point does it become too much? Bolton is winning 1 game every 11 for 2018 and 2019. I don't have the stats but the end of 2017 was pretty shite too. Did we win more than 1 in our last 11? I'm sorry but a winning percentage of less than 10% in 40 games of football is unacceptable. I know the club made a commitment to see this through and we're all new age and considered in our decision making these days but enough is enough. To take this club forward we simply need to rediscover our ruthlessness. And if that means the trigger gets pulled on Bolts early then so be it. Bolton has not shown anything to suggest he can take this group forward. It's time to make the decision that needs to be made.

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agree 100%

i can deal with losing, if the effort is there
i can deal with bad decision making, if we are learning from it
i can deal with trying to develop a game plan and it doesnt always come off, whilst we grow and learn

the probably is, we arent doing any of it.

none.

I dont walk away from the game with any hope
i dont walk away thinking we tried something different and failed
i dont walt away from a game remotely interested in going the next week (though i probably will)

i honestly thought, that the four week window we had a dead set chance after the collingwood game, but that was clearly a false dawn.

St Kilda is terrible, Essendon* even worse, yet we have some managed to not actually get better, but actually get worse with each week.

its untenable now. Bolton staying serves no purpose. We arent just losing, we are losing in worse fashion every week, repeating the same mistakes, trying the same thing, time and time again, and we arent going anywhere .. if anything we are going backwards. the worst thing is, it looks like blokes, who generally could carry this side, have given up. Cripps was dominating, it didnt matter if he was tagged, it didnt matter if he had three on him, he would get the ball and dish it off ... he looks like he is protesting and sending a message to the board .. and honestly, who can blame him.

Its all too much, im not one to sack coaches but this is too much now .. bolton and most of the coaches who have been there for a while need to go. The players need it, the clubs need and the fans need it.

Get Robert Walls as the caretaker coach. These soft players needs some good old-fashioned hard training sessions.

Agree - it's time !

[quote="DocSherrin III"]From purely an historical perspective, I for one will embrace the pending coaching change...

More than any other club we've been known for our off-field 'blues'. From the resignation of John Worrall (because players wanted more control of the club), to Ken Hands and Jim Francis - a friendship that died and never recovered, to George Harris and Alex Jesaulenko right through to Perc, Parkin, Walls, Brittain, Pagan, Ratten, Malthouse and now Bolton...the fights have roared on.

And it's times like these that I miss Wes Lofts. He didn't usuffer fools. The band-aid needs to be ripped off. It's the Carlton way.[/quote

Doctor regardless of what you think of the board
Is it possible if a separate ticket was formed and challenged the current board
Could the members vote on which group they wanted to take control of the club

A long-shot. You'd have to do it at an AGM, but by and large, those days are long gone. LoGuidice is there until Feb 2022.
To be fair - off-field is ok...not great...but ok. Change wouldn't accomplish much when you'd have like-for-like coming in.

What about Mathieson and Pratt being removed
Any chance of that

I actually don’t mind this idea at all.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/attachme ... ng.685283/

BB gone by all accounts. Check the link out. Reliable poster.