what is your evidence its tanking and not the club set up?
recruiting development coaching etc

Evidence of this is what???... is it opinion or fact

Mick tanked at collingwood and win a flag from it...

Whats our excuse???

Tanking caused Watson to be crap??... or pick a name...???

Explain yourself...!!!!

I'm not happy with what the club has been doing - they are looking for the quick fix - the white knight all the time.
I won't bag Sticks but someone else should take over the reigns he has been there long enough
They sack coaches when they shouldn't and keep them when they shouldn't - They trade wrong and draft wrong

build a team based on speed then introduce a coach that brings a long kicking game plan -dumb

Look at the 2009 draft as an example - interesting only the three picks. Often we've seen the club say 'we don't rate the draft beyond a certain point' as to why they won't have more picks. You see other clubs (such as Geelong) keep picking because they back their development to turn them into good players.

Lucas
Davies
Kerr

Compared to Geelong

Menzel
Duncan
Christensen
Vardy
Cowan

Look at the kicking ability of the three Carlton drafted compared with Geelong. Kerr had good skills but rarely got the ball. Menzel, Duncan, Christensen all good kicks - look at the way Lucas and Davies put the ball to boot.

Interesting Geelong don't spend much on ruckmen - Simpson (34), West (31), Vardy (42), Blicavs (rookie), McIntosh (FA).

Fair enough load up on ruckmen but it's interesting how Ratten and the list managers thought it was a good idea to spend quite a bit on ruckmen even though they would have been aware of proposed changes to the interchange/introduction of the sub.

I'm saying that the tanking has caused a losing mentality amongst the playing group

No way do Motlop or Christensen have more talent than Yarran, but they're playing better than him pretty consistently.

It's a shame we lost one of the best development coaches in the league to Port Adelaide. Would have been good to see Richardson get a chance to apply for the Carlton job, along with someone like Leigh Tudor.

Culture is what you create and nothing more.

What have we created?
Its all part of the same thing.....

Problem with Carlton if you know the club up close.. its a scary place if success is what youre after.

Culture Development and Recruiting all feed off each other.

Leadership can be something someone is born with or something that can be taught and a skill.
sometimes adverse hardships leads to leaders popping out of nowhere.. where noone thought of that person as a leader before.

Example for leadership read Xenophon's 'ANABASIS'
450 BC still taught today at military schools.

Ratts wouldnt have read it...

Well I went to a a military officer training school, I also commanded one later on and used a national syllabus.
In 29 years in the Army I never saw that book being used.

You just made that up.

Sorry to rain on your parade.
I was in the Australian Army, not the Mexican one.
And all the google references in the world won't change the fact I never saw it used at a military school in 29 years.

I didn't say you made the book up. I am saying you made the bit up about it being used in military schools. In Oz, anyway.
Oh! I was also chief instructor, Leadership and Management at a regional Staff College for a year and we didn't use it there either.

Stick to your strong suite. Bagging Sticks.

noone said its what sombrero read... it said its still taught at military schools today.... ... i never said Oz.. and who said Oz is the bastion of military schools around the world??.. Vietnam and Galipoli would suggest otherwise...



funny guy.... !!!.....youre a tripper!!!

Article on this years success (or lack of it) with MM compared with where we were last year

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/song-remains-the-same-in-blues-backyard-20130708-2pmdg.html