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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:52 am 
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What is so good about Caracella ?
Why is there such a vibe on him?
All three are untried assistant caoches like Bolts was aren't they?
Only difference is they all played.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 11:16 am 
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Bolts lacks the mongrel to make players winners, I loved seeing whatever Scott that was, stupidly trying to hip and shoulder Kingy. That’s what you need the vitamin C factor, all winners have it.
Jeez, Doc and Cripps have to call their own meetings to ask for some basic support of your teammates. Bolts was probably planning the next mother’s day training.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 11:36 am 
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Brad Scott ? Yeah well, he seemed to be able to get his players to buy in, particularly apply mongrel when required.
He is a hard arse, and an experienced hard arse as a player and coach.
Attributes also possessed by Voss. Who I wouldn't discount either.

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Is he Blueman’s chosen one, then? Is he young enough?



....young coach. Untried IIRC.

Where's Blueman?

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bluegirl72 wrote:
What is so good about Caracella ?
Why is there such a vibe on him?
All three are untried assistant caoches like Bolts was aren't they?
Only difference is they all played.


Caracella for game day strategic nous...understanding of players limitations and disciplined approach. Not sure about his 'mongrel'...but when you have Cripps and Docherty...you don't need a coach with mongrel to get players up. Would need to have Craig Macrae come along...keep Dale Amos. Get a proper forwards coach.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 12:45 pm 
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DocSherrin III wrote:
bluegirl72 wrote:
What is so good about Caracella ?
Why is there such a vibe on him?
All three are untried assistant caoches like Bolts was aren't they?
Only difference is they all played.


Caracella for game day strategic nous...understanding of players limitations and disciplined approach. Not sure about his 'mongrel'...but when you have Cripps and Docherty...you don't need a coach with mongrel to get players up. Would need to have Craig Macrae come along...keep Dale Amos. Get a proper forwards coach.


I have seen enough of Bolton to know that he has no clue how to implement an effective and adaptive game plan. Bolton's Plan A reeks, and when it fails he has no Plan B, C, D, nothing. That is why we get blown out, he has no ability to stem the bleeding.

Caracella is one of the smartest operators in the business, see Richmond 2016 (without Caracella) and Richmond 2017 onwards (with Caracella) to see the effect he has had.

Agreed about coaches needs a nasty streak, I don't know if Caracella has that.

Dale Amos is the only match day coach who can hold his head high. Bolts, Barks, Stanton, Teague can not.

SOS would coach this team better than Bolts.

P.S. I also hope we beat Essendon* by 100 points today.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 12:54 pm 
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Seems we should try to get Caracella as an assistant coach, keep Amos and get an experienced mongrel coach.
Howabouthat? Get Scott(or Clarkson) plus some other top line coaches.
Simples.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 12:58 pm 
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bluegirl72 wrote:
Seems we should try to get Caracella as an assistant coach, keep Amos and get an experienced mongrel coach.
Howabouthat? Get Scott(or Clarkson) plus some other top line coaches.
Simples.


I think that’s where things will head.

As soon as this week the plan may be kicked into gear


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Brad Scott’s carry on with Kingy was stupid and showed a Malthouse type level of self-centred personality so I say no to him.


Pathetic for sure.An act of a small child.................and you want to put him in charge of grown men.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:05 pm 
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I could accept Brad Scott as coach, but would prefer Blake Caracella, Adam Kingsley or Scott Burns.

I am dead against having anyone of the cliquey 1995 flag group associated with the club. So that excludes everyone save for Stephen Silvagni and Craig Bradley.


I’m not sure going the untried route would win over the masses. Would be brave and I’m not necessarily against it, but can’t see the club having the cajones.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:18 pm 
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Andy Maher more than alludes to the old ways of cow-tailing to a few rich members still thriving at Carlton. Very disappointing.
https://www.sen.com.au/podcasts/the-carlton-show/

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Is that kowtowing or ... or cow-tailing? Definition unclear.

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Bookie wrote:
Bolts lacks the mongrel to make players winners, I loved seeing whatever Scott that was, stupidly trying to hip and shoulder Kingy. That’s what you need the vitamin C factor, all winners have it.
Jeez, Doc and Cripps have to call their own meetings to ask for some basic support of your teammates. Bolts was probably planning the next mother’s day training.

I don't agree on Brad Scott based on what I've seen over the last few years, he had an all out front running game plan similar to Matthew Knights at Essendon*. It looks great when they're on but very easy for good teams to shut them down and bash them up. It'd be a terrible style for our young team to play and would get similar results to what we got last year.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:51 pm 
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DocSherrin III wrote:
bluegirl72 wrote:
What is so good about Caracella ?
Why is there such a vibe on him?
All three are untried assistant caoches like Bolts was aren't they?
Only difference is they all played.


Caracella for game day strategic nous...understanding of players limitations and disciplined approach. Not sure about his 'mongrel'...but when you have Cripps and Docherty...you don't need a coach with mongrel to get players up. Would need to have Craig Macrae come along...keep Dale Amos. Get a proper forwards coach.



Forgot where I read it or heard it but Caracella has no intention to be the head coach...is actually quite shy and reserved and doesn't like the attention
But please...as an asisstant, every day of the week

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:02 pm 
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HTP wrote:
Is that kowtowing or ... or cow-tailing? Definition unclear.

Oh wow!!! Did I just invent a new word? Ha! I am gonna use it from now
on.
:lol: :thanks: :oops:

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:03 pm 
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99prelim wrote:
DocSherrin III wrote:
bluegirl72 wrote:
What is so good about Caracella ?
Why is there such a vibe on him?
All three are untried assistant caoches like Bolts was aren't they?
Only difference is they all played.


Caracella for game day strategic nous...understanding of players limitations and disciplined approach. Not sure about his 'mongrel'...but when you have Cripps and Docherty...you don't need a coach with mongrel to get players up. Would need to have Craig Macrae come along...keep Dale Amos. Get a proper forwards coach.



Forgot where I read it or heard it but Caracella has no intention to be the head coach...is actually quite shy and reserved and doesn't like the attention
But please...as an asisstant, every day of the week

Cool!

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Sin City wrote:
Bookie wrote:
Bolts lacks the mongrel to make players winners, I loved seeing whatever Scott that was, stupidly trying to hip and shoulder Kingy. That’s what you need the vitamin C factor, all winners have it.
Jeez, Doc and Cripps have to call their own meetings to ask for some basic support of your teammates. Bolts was probably planning the next mother’s day training.

I don't agree on Brad Scott based on what I've seen over the last few years, he had an all out front running game plan similar to Matthew Knights at Essendon**. It looks great when they're on but very easy for good teams to shut them down and bash them up. It'd be a terrible style for our young team to play and would get similar results to what we got last year.


That’s not what I have seen brad Scott do.

I struggle to see anyone getting us as bad as last year, even bolts is struggling to do that this year (though he may get closer after today).


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:06 pm 
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HTP wrote:
Is that kowtowing or ... or cow-tailing? Definition unclear.

Awww silly!!!
It IS a word after all. Maybe not with hyphen.
http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/ads-l/2013-January/124473.html
And
https://arnoldzwicky.org/2013/01/28/cowtailing/

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I suspect Bolton's on the way out the door, he knows it, and the lawyers certainly do

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:44 pm 
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good article.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/can-carlton-heed-the-lessons-from-thomas-night-out-20190531-p51t69.html
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The inconsistent performances from rounds seven to 10 show that the message being delivered with such an intense, unrelenting tone is not being heard.

The constant references to what other clubs might do in similar situations has worn thin, too.

The Blues' hierarchy would do well to remember basketball coach John Wooden's famous line that "you haven't taught until they have learned", which means coaches need to accept responsibility for performance rather than constantly demanding in public their players be smarter in certain situations.

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Having someone in the club prepared to step outside the tight boundaries that seem to be restricting the natural talent of Charlie Curnow, Jacob Weitering, Sam Petrevski-Seton and Paddy Dow might be a positive.

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