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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 11:54 am 
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Our list couldn’t possible have been rebuild any better. Yes, we might have missed one or two and I might have doubts on some high picks/rookies but SOS has provided a great spread of players, ie. Cripps, Walsh, SPS, Fisher, Dow, Kennedy, Settlefield, O’Brien for instance gives us flexibility in both inside and outside. Not really his fault that Lang, LeBois, Pickett, Garlett have struggled for various reasons, mostly injuries. As you can tell though we have 4 there that can play small forwards. IMHO he couldn’t have done anymore.

What we have done unfortunately onfield with them is very disappointing so far. I don’t see comfort in execution of the game plan and I certainly don’t see manic pressure with or without the ball and they are both with coaching.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 11:59 am 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Our list couldn’t possible have been rebuild any better. Yes, we might have missed one or two and I might have doubts on some high picks/rookies but SOS has provided a great spread of players, ie. Cripps, Walsh, SPS, Fisher, Dow, Kennedy, Settlefield, O’Brien for instance gives us flexibility in both inside and outside. Not really his fault that Lang, LeBois, Pickett, Garlett have struggled for various reasons, mostly injuries. As you can tell though we have 4 there that can play small forwards. IMHO he couldn’t have done anymore.

What we have done unfortunately onfield with them is very disappointing so far. I don’t see comfort in execution of the game plan and I certainly don’t see manic pressure with or without the ball and they are both with coaching.


Garlett was a long shot, hadn’t been in the system for a couple of years
Le bois, ok we tried there worth a go
Pickett, always injured before and after, long shot
Lang, never that good to begin with and injured before and after coming to us as well

As I said in the list management thread, you can’t get injury plagued players then claim you are super unlucky that they are still always injured when you get them.

Also there is no evidence that LOB, Kennedy or even Setterfield will be any good.

Overall I think our hit rate with high picks has been quite good, just a dismal failure outside of that.

And yes I don’t think what we are trying to do on field suits what we have either. I don’t like the shoehorning of players into unfamiliar positions, or guys being shunted away from preferred positions in the hope of fast tracking young guys.

Some of the above is due to the unbalanced list though. I think SOS has too much power, believes his own BS and thinks he can do whatever he likes without question.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:34 pm 
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We should win tomorrow’s game by six goals. Unfortunately, SHOULD and WILL, are two completely different things.
A loss tomorrow and the club must move on Bolton.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:36 pm 
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On what measure are we a 6 goal better team than the junkies?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:43 pm 
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Talent and quality of individuals.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:46 pm 
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This has my attention more.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/06/01/ ... on-regret/


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:58 pm 
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I’d give the job back to Ratts. Just saying.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 4:11 pm 
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Please no. Great player, shit coach. He'd have to have some pretty convincing arguments as to why we'd take him back.

IMO he's an ideological coach when we need a philosophical coach. Many of the list issues we've faced in the last decade were created under Ratts' watch.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 4:25 pm 
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The Duke wrote:
Please no. Great player, shit coach. He'd have to have some pretty convincing arguments as to why we'd take him back.

IMO he's an ideological coach when we need a philosophical coach. Many of the list issues we've faced in the last decade were created under Ratts' watch.


Shit coach? He took us from basket case to finals within 2 years and kept us there with a pretty average side. Fair effort for a rookie coach at the times. Rest of our crap coaches since Parko just gives us spoons and embarrassment.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 4:37 pm 
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jim wrote:
The Duke wrote:
Please no. Great player, shit coach. He'd have to have some pretty convincing arguments as to why we'd take him back.

IMO he's an ideological coach when we need a philosophical coach. Many of the list issues we've faced in the last decade were created under Ratts' watch.


Shit coach? He took us from basket case to finals within 2 years and kept us there with a pretty average side. Fair effort for a rookie coach at the times. Rest of our crap coaches since Parko just gives us spoons and embarrassment.


This is true


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 4:51 pm 
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I always remember Ratts having files on every single player in the comp when he was a player. Well prepared, extremely hard working.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 4:55 pm 
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Interesting talking to some people who played and coached against BB in Tassie.
Critics say his premiership side could have coached itself to the flag.
He was known for his stubbornness and predictability. Rivals knew what his sides would bring and how they would set up and could be picked apart.
Bit of water under the bridge since then but they are criticisms still levelled at him.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 6:22 pm 
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kennyhunter wrote:
Interesting talking to some people who played and coached against BB in Tassie.
Critics say his premiership side could have coached itself to the flag.
He was known for his stubbornness and predictability. Rivals knew what his sides would bring and how they would set up and could be picked apart.
Bit of water under the bridge since then but they are criticisms still levelled at him.


Things we should have known before hiring him.

I suspect the club now knows he is not the man.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 6:29 pm 
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dlb99 wrote:
kennyhunter wrote:
Interesting talking to some people who played and coached against BB in Tassie.
Critics say his premiership side could have coached itself to the flag.
He was known for his stubbornness and predictability. Rivals knew what his sides would bring and how they would set up and could be picked apart.
Bit of water under the bridge since then but they are criticisms still levelled at him.


Things we should have known before hiring him.

I suspect the club now knows he is not the man.



So let’s get this straight. As a 24 year old playing coach, opposition sides picked him apart, and his team won the premiership despite him. :cool:


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 6:54 pm 
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verbs wrote:
dlb99 wrote:
kennyhunter wrote:
Interesting talking to some people who played and coached against BB in Tassie.
Critics say his premiership side could have coached itself to the flag.
He was known for his stubbornness and predictability. Rivals knew what his sides would bring and how they would set up and could be picked apart.
Bit of water under the bridge since then but they are criticisms still levelled at him.


Things we should have known before hiring him.

I suspect the club now knows he is not the man.



So let’s get this straight. As a 24 year old playing coach, opposition sides picked him apart, and his team won the premiership despite him. :cool:

It is amazing isn't it,, the crap that posters regurgitate before they actually think before brain engages and embarrass themselves!!


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:07 pm 
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Trigger wrote:
verbs wrote:
dlb99 wrote:
kennyhunter wrote:
Interesting talking to some people who played and coached against BB in Tassie.
Critics say his premiership side could have coached itself to the flag.
He was known for his stubbornness and predictability. Rivals knew what his sides would bring and how they would set up and could be picked apart.
Bit of water under the bridge since then but they are criticisms still levelled at him.


Things we should have known before hiring him.

I suspect the club now knows he is not the man.



So let’s get this straight. As a 24 year old playing coach, opposition sides picked him apart, and his team won the premiership despite him. :cool:

It is amazing isn't it,, the crap that posters regurgitate before they actually think before brain engages and embarrass themselves!!


Just passing on what was mentioned when he was appointed and again recently. By people who coached against him.
I’d have a crack about one of your posts Trigger but can’t recall reading any.
But, judging by that cracking effort, obviously ain’t missing much.

Whereas Verbs doesn’t like anything derogatory said about what he considers the second best thing to come out of the coach’s state :cool: :cool:

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:17 pm 
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If they get Scott, the club is dead to me, after 55+ years.

Nearly lost me when they got Malthouse.


Yep ! if this bloke gets the gig we have reached an all-time low.Just considering him is bad enough.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:18 pm 
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What are the reasons everyone hates Brad Scott?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:28 pm 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:29 pm 
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They could get Pagan Mathouse Scott Brittain Ratten Voss who ever .I couldn't give a toss about who coached them as long as they start winning

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