Then again, how good are North playing!

I have been thinking the same thing.
I don't think North have as much talent on their list but they are hard at the ball and playing with confidence.
Rhyce Shaw will have the same number of wins as Bolton has this year.

Ian Aitken says “Hi!”.

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“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb

I’d give the job back to Ratts. Just saying.

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my last one was rubbish

Why?
Anyone who wants to reflect the first 3 years of the list rebuild against the coach is either mischievous or lacking in understanding IMHO.
We have totally rebuilt the list with little regard for fielding a competitive or functioning team. Bolton bought into the process and was given the role of coaching a team thats primary focus was getting games into kids at the expense of short term success.
As supporters, most of us bought into the process as well. We supported the club cutting back to bare bones and doing a full rebuild knowing full well there was going to be significant pain.

So anyone who wants to whinge about Boltons total win/loss record is either lacking basic comprehension of our list transformation or an agitating @#$%&! sook who wants doesn't have the guts to do the hard yards in pursuit of success.

By all means complain about where we are in 2019 and express concerns about our progress this year but harking back to where we were 1 or 2 years ago is disingenuous and ignorant of the reality IMO.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

You can bang on about all the past few years blah blah blah. But surely blind Freddy can see that we absolutely stink at the moment. The players are lacking in belief. I fear the rot has set in and a circuit breaker is needed. I think we need a coach who has played AFL.

I don't trust Scott. his mouth is disproportionately small.

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"I had to eat"

Last year I had my doubts about things but thought I’d wait to see this year if there was any improvement, I wasn’t looking for miracles but something like 4-6 wins and overall competitiveness and a coherent to how we play.

Now Blue vain I will ask you, what is the tipping point for you? I think we will win 2 more for the year max, is that still acceptable for you and tracking how you would expect? How about we win 0 more? (a distinct possibility)

Then seeing if you are happy with this year being similar to last year with a better percentage around 70 or so, what can we expect next year? Anything? We can be 1-9 again and get excited over green shoots?

At what point can we say Bolts and SOS have failed?

I’m not sure why people lump SOS in with Bolton. They play completely different roles. Bloody hell, if SOS was coaching, we would be playing better I think. Before SOS was at the club we had no freakin idea how to develop a list. He has done a fair job in getting some great talented kids into this club. If things continue they will walk out of the joint pretty soon. I’d like to know what Wallsy is thinking. The next thing we here, he will leave the club and all of us supporters will be completely in the dark as to what the hell he ever did. Bolton shits me, he always falls for the injuries excuse. That response doesn’t show much faith in the team that’s out there. I get the sense that the penny has dropped in terms of the club knowing they are up shit creek, and a new direction is needed. Who the next messiah coach is I’m not sure but i reckon the club might know.

6 to 8 wins was your pass mark before the season BV. Even a staunch supporter of the rebuild like your self must be disappointed with the progress.

Out of all the posters on all the footy forums I value your knowledge and your technical judgment and analysis of how we are playing.

You analyse different players their impact and you give us less tactical novices a different perspective on the game.

But 99% of the population doesn't analysis football like yourself as really it is not that complex .

In all forms of life if you embark on a task to achieve an objective if you are not making progress after 4 years you are failing with that objective.
Now you can probably produce evidence on how are % is going or how are progress is compared to team x. Because that's what you do.

But no form of justification for the results we have been achieving would satisfy 99% of the population .

And if 99 are saying one thing and 1 is saying another who is right.

Apart from the handful of die hard Carlton fans that frequent these sites 90 % plus think his time is up and a fair chunk are just not even bothering anymore.

They sold hope this year and unless they can turn that around in the back half of the year supporters will move on.

The club is bigger than Bolton.
Bolton is not getting results
For the sake of the club Bolton has to go. Otherwise we will be here again next year and the same problem will exist

Even an expert tactical person like your self can see that



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If you allow the Government to change the Laws in an emergency
They will create an Emergency to change the Laws

Their both culpable in my view.

SOS has treated all picks out of the top 20 as a crap shoot really.

All he has done well is extracted good value to get high picks, and we look to have a pretty good hit rate with those selections.

Everything else he has done has been an utter failure. Injury prone long shots, gws obsession with injury riddled former high picks etc.

We actually have something to work with now talent wise, but still have a paper thin list which is horribly unbalanced.

This

Aside from some incremental improvements in individuals, I can’t see how we have improved from a playing style perspective.

It IS....

not to mention there's TWO of him...!


kindest regards tommi

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that'siti'mnotchangingthistagain......!

Don't misunderstand me, I'm not happy with the results this year.
There are games we should have won and either coaching, player development or player mindset have prevented us from obtaining wins that were there for the taking.
I can see improvement but the guidance or off-field/on-field leadership has prevented us from getting reward.
IMHO, Bolton has a dozen games to prove he can step up or he is gone.

Personally, I still hold out hope it will turn around and we can get our share of wins before the season is out. Mostly because I think Bolton has done some great things for the club. He has created unity during the most testing time.
He has been reamed by the list management group with the tools he has been given on gameday (admittedly he went into the role with full clarity of the impending situation).
It's up to him and the players between now and the end of the season. Let's hope he gets a reasonable run with injury to give us a clear picture.

My frustration is posters dragging up his record from 2 or 3 years ago to kick him. If they're stupid enough to think we should have a good share of wins from those seasons, they have no grasp of the game whatsoever or they're just shit stirrers whose opinion shouldn't be valued anyway.

This season is the key. Will there be tangible improvement in player development by Round 23? Will we grasp the opportunities to win games?
They've put themselves under significant pressure. It's up to them to step up massively between now and August.
But I believe you find out most about people when the pressure is at its greatest.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Well 2-3 years ago we were winning more matches, we have stopped winning matches with any regularly from the 2nd half of 2017 onwards.

So if we just take this year in isolation, we have been an abject failure.

It seems that some people hold out hope that we will win 4-5 out of 10 second half of the year simply because Brisbane did. As I’ve said in previous posts I think absolute max 2 more wins for us.

In another thread this morning you're claiming our list is in a terrible state but here you're shit-canning Bolton for his lack of success.

With respect, neither of us have any control over Boltons tenure so let's just see what transpires.
If we win 4-5, hopefully the players are learning winning behaviours. If not, the coach will likely get the bullet.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Hadn't remembered he was the guy who beat up on an injured Hrrieevoltt. Kinda made me sick. And I had aLready resigned myself to getting him as it seems to be the word around town. Thee other knock on him from Norf supporters is he plays favorites.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

If they get Scott, the club is dead to me, after 55+ years.

Nearly lost me when they got Malthouse.

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No Guts, No Glory

I’ve fully said SOS is culpable as well, it isn’t a one or the other issue, both are culpable.

But yes I’d put the blame more on SOS than bolts.

The sad reality is bolts will probably cop a lot of the blame for SOS’s failure to build a balanced list.