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Who should coach us next year?
Brad Scott 16%  16%  [ 16 ]
Michael Voss 20%  20%  [ 19 ]
Mark Williams 11%  11%  [ 11 ]
Don Pyke 22%  22%  [ 21 ]
Danny Daly 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Scott Burns 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Giansiracusa 5%  5%  [ 5 ]
Jaymie Graham 3%  3%  [ 3 ]
Adam Kingsley 16%  16%  [ 16 ]
Adam Yze 3%  3%  [ 3 ]
Nigel Lappin 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Jarrad Schofield 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Steven King 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
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Walsh wrote:
So the process was throwing trillions at Clarkson then ask him to go through a process? This board is funny.

The sooner sports/football people dominate the board the better.

Out of interest, which other clubs in the AFL have boards dominated by sports/football people?


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:40 pm 
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If he wanted it badly enough he'd go through the process.


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How about: Thank @#$%&! we don't have to watch that defensive and boring shite that Lyon coaches?


I dunno... a coach that gets his clubs to grand finals I'd rarely boring



Equally, when did "3 time losing grand final coach" become a must-have attribute?


Yeah, he was a bounce of the ball away from being premiership coach. My point is he gets the best out of a group and having a team challenging for finals and grand finals isn't what I'd call boring.

AFL is a business of winning games of football not being entertaining losers. I know what is rather

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Sidefx wrote:
Walsh wrote:
So the process was throwing trillions at Clarkson then ask him to go through a process? This board is funny.

The sooner sports/football people dominate the board the better.

Out of interest, which other clubs in the AFL have boards dominated by sports/football people?


Well if our mob had half a clue then there wouldn't be calls for a spill.

You can still have your enterprise types. But Craig Mathieson in control of VFL list management is just lol.

He needs to be replaced by a football person - Sayers needs to be replaced by a football person.

I'll take Ian Prendergast in a heartbeat over this joker.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:44 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
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This board wouldn't know how to run a hotdog stand outside a nightclub.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Well that says to me the Board are not drug dealers. That's a good thing, isn't it!


They sacked an inept coach so they got one thing right

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:46 pm 
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frank dardew wrote:
Don’t agree can’t win Club laughed at Carlton never go through proper process for coaches and will just appoint Ross Lyon they have a proper process and Ross Lyon doesn’t want to go through it so pulls out club is pillioried for losing Ross Lyon


Ridiculous crap I hoped that Lyon would be selected but if he can’t be bothered being intervened and won’t be assessed against other potential coaches then he does not want it enough

Even more important that he goes through process when he hasn’t coached for 2 years


spot on.

carlton is shit, doesnt have a process and throws money at it .. never learn etc.. etc..

what is carlton doing, they have a process but a potential coach doesnt want to do it ... they never learn, board are idiots etc.. etc..

the media just needs to @#$%&! off, most of fans just need to @#$%&! off,

let the club go about it, make the right decision for the club and move on ... i have more faith in what i have seen in sayers so far than i have in any media commentor or fan alike.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:47 pm 
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Wishful thinking...Ross got wind that Clarko is back in the hunt and pulled the pin

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:49 pm 
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2 years ago, Carlton signed up Justin Longmuir as a Senior Assistant to Teague.

Teague and Carlton missed out on this professional and up and coming Coach to help Teague and his Game Plan, who had done his 10 year apprenticeship with Grand finalists, WCE in 2015 and Collingwood in 2018.

Fortunate for Freo, they signed Longmuir as their Head Coach before he started his tenure at Carlton. Freo have done well with a new Coach, with a new plan, and a new set of eyes on how they see the game evolving. Ironically, they replaced with Lyon.

Maybe the Best Coach available is yet to be decided on.

Maybe the Best coach available is one with a great apprenticeship, a new set of eyes and a refreshing view of the evolution of the game.

Craig McRae. No one knew him. Since he was selected as Head Coach yesterday, everyone has heard of him and his deeds and why he is ready to make the step up to Head Coach.

Adam Kingsley
Blake Caracella
Danny Daly
Adam Yze
Scotty Burns.......


Maybe now, if Lyon and Clarko are not handed the job it sparks interest of better qualified ex coaches who want the job, badly"

Don Pyke
Brad Scott
Michael Voss........

If in fact Lyon has pulled out, maybe Lyon knew he would fail in a fair process against a few of the abovementioned prospects.

This is a good thing

Adam Kingsley missed by a bees dick ... there's GOLG out there if we dig for it and do the hard yards.

We have 6 weeks before Trade Period to nail one. Plenty of time!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:54 pm 
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BIBI01 wrote:
Not sure why we are so hung up on having a "process", there is no set Template to appoint a coach.
The process should be whatever the club thinks will get the right coach.

We've been here before and had different "process" for appointing coaches and none have got us to where we want to be.

If the pecking order was
Clako
Ross
rest of field

as soon as Clarko said no, appoint Ross and move on with preparations for next season.

Obviously that wasn't the pecking order

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Walsh wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
Walsh wrote:
So the process was throwing trillions at Clarkson then ask him to go through a process? This board is funny.

The sooner sports/football people dominate the board the better.

Out of interest, which other clubs in the AFL have boards dominated by sports/football people?


Well if our mob had half a clue then there wouldn't be calls for a spill.

You can still have your enterprise types. But Craig Mathieson in control of VFL list management is just lol.

He needs to be replaced by a football person - Sayers needs to be replaced by a football person.

I'll take Ian Prendergast in a heartbeat over this joker.

I doubt it, you can always find 100 deluded fools in any group, as we are seeing.
It seems to me you only really have in issue with Craig, did he talk down to you or something? Or does his success make you feel less relevant?

And I know how much you love Hardwick so I'm assuming you also think the club is run well.
As far as I can see Brendon Gale is the only footballer on their board and he's not the chair.

To me your constant suggestions of a football heavy board and a president to be a footballer, just shows how little you actually understand of the function of a board and the composition of directors required to be successful.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:55 pm 
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Walsh wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
Walsh wrote:
So the process was throwing trillions at Clarkson then ask him to go through a process? This board is funny.

The sooner sports/football people dominate the board the better.

Out of interest, which other clubs in the AFL have boards dominated by sports/football people?


Well if our mob had half a clue then there wouldn't be calls for a spill.

You can still have your enterprise types. But Craig Mathieson in control of VFL list management is just lol.

He needs to be replaced by a football person - Sayers needs to be replaced by a football person.

I'll take Ian Prendergast in a heartbeat over this joker.


Or you could just answer the question for a change....

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:01 pm 
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We're quite possibly waiting on coaches participating in the finals before proceeding (including assistant coaches)
Therefore the timeframe of around 6 weeks fits perfectly. It also justifies the calling of the review mid season IMHO. Make a decision on the senior coach and alert prospective coaches that we're in the market and to make themselves available immediately after the season concludes.

Sorry if that doesn't fit the 'sack the board", "we're a rabble" crowd.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:04 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
2 years ago, Carlton signed up Justin Longmuir as a Senior Assistant to Teague.

Teague and Carlton missed out on this professional and up and coming Coach to help Teague and his Game Plan, who had done his 10 year apprenticeship with Grand finalists, WCE in 2015 and Collingwood in 2018.

Fortunate for Freo, they signed Longmuir as their Head Coach before he started his tenure at Carlton. Freo have done well with a new Coach, with a new plan, and a new set of eyes on how they see the game evolving. Ironically, they replaced with Lyon.

Maybe the Best Coach available is yet to be decided on.

Maybe the Best coach available is one with a great apprenticeship, a new set of eyes and a refreshing view of the evolution of the game.

Craig McRae. No one knew him. Since he was selected as Head Coach yesterday, everyone has heard of him and his deeds and why he is ready to make the step up to Head Coach.

Adam Kingsley
Blake Caracella
Danny Daly
Adam Yze
Scotty Burns.......


Maybe now, if Lyon and Clarko are not handed the job it sparks interest of better qualified ex coaches who want the job, badly"

Don Pyke
Brad Scott
Michael Voss........

If in fact Lyon has pulled out, maybe Lyon knew he would fail in a fair process against a few of the abovementioned prospects.

This is a good thing

Adam Kingsley missed by a bees dick ... there's GOLG out there if we dig for it and do the hard yards.

We have 6 weeks before Trade Period to nail one. Plenty of time!!!

Go get 'em Blues


I do like you what you said, it does make sense , but they won’t be going for an untried afl head coach and it won’t be Voss

Which leaves the Scott brothers , Clarko and bevo ... hmm this just got interesting

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I think he just farted, judging by the look on the bloke behind him

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I'll wait to see the ultimate result of all this before deciding whether or not its a shit-show. I won't be dictated to by these hacks and their Carlton-translators.

This. And the “ultimate result” probably can’t be called until this time next year.

This time yesterday, I was moving towards “the process is a sham, Lyon is going to be appointed and the selection panel is just for show”….but that theory has been shot down today (assuming the report that Lyon has been put off by the depth of the process is correct).

The moral of the story - we have NFI what’s going to happen and should hold off calling Sayers a genius or a dud until we’ve seen our team play a season under whoever his board appoints.

If we play shit footy in 2022 I will join the pitchfork brigade.

If we improve in 2022 I’ll be praising Sayers and his team.

This appointment is a massive moment either way for our club.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:12 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
We're quite possibly waiting on coaches participating in the finals before proceeding (including assistant coaches)
Therefore the timeframe of around 6 weeks fits perfectly. It also justifies the calling of the review mid season IMHO. Make a decision on the senior coach and alert prospective coaches that we're in the market and to make themselves available immediately after the season concludes.

Sorry if that doesn't fit the 'sack the board", "we're a rabble" crowd.

This is more likely than unlikely in my opinion too.
It's just a shame that these morons are mudding the water after every media hit, just to further their bogus ticket.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:17 pm 
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Has anyone dissected the coaching selection panel?

David Parkin - retired as a player in 1974; retired as a coach in 2000.
Diesel Williams - retired as a player 1997; never coached.
Tim Lincoln - On his business website: Outside of business life Tim loves: family time, marathon running, competing in Ironman events, tennis, golf, boating, gardening and the mighty Carlton Football Club. So never played AFL, never coached.i]
Patty Kinnersly - On the CFC website: [i]Alongside an extensive corporate career, Kinnersly has 14 years of playing experience in the VWFL for the Ballarat Lions, Fairfield Falcons and Parkside Magpies, playing in five premierships and representing Victoria on 10 occasions, twice as captain. AFAIAA never coached.

Cain Liddle - Played for the Cats 1994, 4 games delisted. 8 seasons assistant TAC coach. Current CEO for CFC.
Brad Lloyd - Played for Hawks 1998-99, 11 games delisted. Currently Head of Football, CFC. AFAIAA never coached.


Does this seem light on for

- recent playing trends.
- General coaching expertise. Recent coaching trends
- thoughts from outside the CFC.


Are we taking a chance again by possibly not getting the selection panel right.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:17 pm 
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Isn’t if 4 weeks to the trade period? It means we wont have a coach to talk to prospective players. How is that going to sit? And players wont be able to decide as they dont know who they are playing for.


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