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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2015 10:00 pm 
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Well the inevitable has happened.

What passes me off is that MM never clearly articulated the reason why he could not win games early in the season (this year is protracted).

Why was this so?

Why did his enthusiasm vanish in the space of the first 2 weeks from not losing a game to bust.

Why the extremely poor performance in the first 2 rounds prior to the rebuild statement. Why?

$1m a year? The mind shudders.

He's a classic Narcisist, won't be accountable for anything

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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2015 10:04 pm 
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I don't blame the board one bit on this. They tried very hard to see out the year with MM and then depart ways at the end of the year but the petulant little sook just wouldn't let go. With MM it was all about him being reappointed and nothing to do with fixing our woes. Remember, his poor wife couldn't sleep at night worrying whether he would get his contract extended. :roll:

Don't forget ... he delayed his coaching start for HIS book launch ... it's all about Mick ! :evil:

MM comes out on the Friday night presser and says he is on the same page as the board ... his actions post that were clearly of someone who was trying to destabilise things and find an out ... it was his way of quitting because the only reason MM couldn't get on the same page as the club because he never had any love for us.

He took us from being the most exciting team to watch (as told to me by opposition supporters) to the most boring team to watch.

We have paid a huge price for not letting Ratten learn from his mistakes.



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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2015 10:08 pm 
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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2015 10:29 pm 
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I have been a fan of Mick but I think he got this very wrong. The club had no choice in sacking him now. Will be interesting to see how the players react to this.


What do you mean he got it wrong? That was his intention! He didn't want to coach the next two weeks - knowing they were / are likely to be thumpings, and that the inevitable sacking would occur thereafter. He wanted them to pull the trigger today.

mots is right....
MM came across as unhinged and vindictive today...desperately trying to revise history and have a 'look over there" approach to his f$&@ups....
It didn't work!
Everyone was critical of "the next two weeks " strategy...whether on purpose or accidental, it was played beautifully by the club.

Trigg and MLG saw their chance..it probably fell into their lap really...."MM is a legend but we have to part ways"...they didn't need to say that "he's unhinged and we could've sacked him without a payout and be suing him for liablous comments" ....everyone else joined the dots.

Seen his statement....
MM manager obviously worded him up...polite, contrite and don't mention the war.....

Read all of the papers, comments etc...MM is a legend of AFL BUT all you get afterwards is a long list of his f$&@ups......funny thing is, they hadn't been brought up much before Betts, scorched earth, lack of talent..etc etc..until the old fool went rogue this morning...ah well.
Now to clear some of the dead wood from the board

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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2015 11:22 pm 
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I just hope that there is some response from the players - for the remainder of the season. Does anyone really know first hand if he had lost the players?????? I know they were playing that way - but does anyone know first hand if it's true????

Board is absolutely r00ted but they did what they had to do today.

The whole 2 week thing - I seriously didn't mind that. But for MM to demand to know sooner rather than later 'what will we learn in the next 2 weeks that isn't known now' is just selfish. There would have been plenty of players over the years that MM would have known were going to be sacked by him half way through the season but he would have waited till the end of year review to tell them the news. So how's his situation different?????

As for Wayne Brittain - what a kn0b. He comes out saying Carlton should have been stronger in the initial responses to the media etc........well you know what???? They were. They came out and said numerous times, MM will coach the remainder of season and we'll be discussing his contract in the back half of the year. What's wrong with that. He didn't like it and forced our hand so he goes out as a sacked coach......

Brittain also said Carlton need to support the new coach more.......going on to say "we'll probably just give the new coach a 3 year deal......and then what after those 3 years?" Well what do you want t055er????? The new coach to get a 7 year deal????? And I'll tell you what after 3 years. Teir performance is reviewed and a decision made. Unfortunately the boys on SEN were too soft on him.

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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2015 11:32 pm 
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billc3 wrote:
Zeemond wrote:
Mots87 wrote:
I have been a fan of Mick but I think he got this very wrong. The club had no choice in sacking him now. Will be interesting to see how the players react to this.


What do you mean he got it wrong? That was his intention! He didn't want to coach the next two weeks - knowing they were / are likely to be thumpings, and that the inevitable sacking would occur thereafter. He wanted them to pull the trigger today.

mots is right....
MM came across as unhinged and vindictive today...desperately trying to revise history and have a 'look over there" approach to his f$&@ups....
It didn't work!
Everyone was critical of "the next two weeks " strategy...whether on purpose or accidental, it was played beautifully by the club.

Trigg and MLG saw their chance..it probably fell into their lap really...."MM is a legend but we have to part ways"...they didn't need to say that "he's unhinged and we could've sacked him without a payout and be suing him for liablous comments" ....everyone else joined the dots.

Seen his statement....
MM manager obviously worded him up...polite, contrite and don't mention the war.....

Read all of the papers, comments etc...MM is a legend of AFL BUT all you get afterwards is a long list of his f$&@ups......funny thing is, they hadn't been brought up much before Betts, scorched earth, lack of talent..etc etc..until the old fool went rogue this morning...ah well.
Now to clear some of the dead wood from the board

I think everybody is attempting to revise history

It's all about denial
Even at our level were denying.

He went rogue on purpose... The board didn't want a part out.
He forced then Into it
The board should have sacked him Monday

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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2015 11:34 pm 
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Classic narcissist. For the classic narcissist club and board.
Classic

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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2015 11:40 pm 
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dadadadada wrote:
......... Remember, his poor wife couldn't sleep at night worrying whether he would get his contract extended. [/b]


The references to his family, his wife, etc got me. Everyone is happy to shake hands, sign on the dotted line enjoy the 3 year $1m contract. But hell when things go too hard, pull out the family/feel sorry for me card.

BTW what was he bagging on about at last Friday's post match presser re his dad, size of a fist tumor, etc etc. Mate I've seen kids, women many of them young suffer cruel deaths and gives me his personal history. I may sound callous but l'm just not interested.

If you can't stand the heat.....


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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 12:51 am 
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Bye Mick and good riddance.
Horrible game plan. Outdated and predictable.
The new coach won't be able to change the game plan overnight but e can play the kids and set them free. PLay each to his strengths and tell them they are playing for their futures but that they will get lenty of chances to strut their stuff.
We have to play them, win or lose.

The lack of tackling has been the highlight of the last few weeks and that is something not hard to turn around.
We have a ckearance ruck in Wood. We have clearance beasts in Judd, Cripps, Graham and Smith.
We have pace in Buckley, Walker, Boekhurst, Touhy, Armfield and Yarran.
We have hard hitters in Bell, Cripps, Smith, White, Casboult and Wood.
We have outside run in Bell, Yarran, Simmo, Murphy and Everitt.
We have guts and determinatin in Simmo, White, Judd, Crips, Mnzell, Docherty.
We have Steady as she goes in the rest.

Surely there is a win in there if we tell them to do what they're good at.

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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 1:10 am 
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 6:21 am 
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Heard on the radio this morning, that he was planning to give a paid tell all interview on TV this week. That should be interesting. Can't he go away?


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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:07 am 
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camelboy wrote:
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-26/the-blues-and-mick-a-marriage-that-was-always-on-the-rocks

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SOME day football historians will study the 54-game Michael Malthouse era as coach of the Carlton Football Club and ask themselves, "What on earth were they thinking?"


Dear Ash, the history books will show that Malthouse coached s team to bottom of the ladder and resulted in him being SaKced!


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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:09 am 
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Drewgirl wrote:
Heard on the radio this morning, that he was planning to give a paid tell all interview on TV this week. That should be interesting. Can't he go away?


The Board would be derelict in their duty if they didn't put in a gag order in his terms of settlement. Despite all of his nonsense about not being a quitter, that's precisely what he has done. This season was all about him getting to his silly record, despite him saying he was embarrassed by it. Once that carrot was no longer there and he couldn't "climb the mountain" (to use his words) with the cattle he had, it was game over and he didn't care who he torched. This is a guy who said his wife had been brought to tears because of the unwanted attention brought to him. What did he do to Eddie's young family yesterday. He basically called Eddie a squib in his final year at the club. I am so happy to see the back of him. He reflected poorly on the members, sponsors and prospective recruits. If he does more damage in a tell-all interview, the club shouldn't pay him another cent.

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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:39 am 
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He can be a coach and you can't gag him. Or he can leave on his terms.
Why do you want a gag order on him anyway?
Don't you want to know what's going on at our club?
If he is lying they can go to court..
Personally I want to hear what he has to say because there is much more behind the scenes this club isn't saying.
This is a perfect storm for a board collapse.

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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:43 am 
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Step 1 - Get rid of Mick.

Step 2 - Get rid of everybody else.

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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:48 am 
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Synbad wrote:
He can be a coach and you can't gag him. Or he can leave on his terms.
Why do you want a gag order on him anyway?
Don't you want to know what's going on at our club?
If he is lying they can go to court..
Personally I want to hear what he has to say because there is much more behind the scenes this club isn't saying.
This is a perfect storm for a board collapse.

I wouldn't believe a word he says.

Totally untrustworthy.


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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:49 am 
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That's exactly how it should be Ryan so that we
Can get out of this

I want to hear more from Mick in this he said.. She said
Can't believe people want Mick to go away quietly. Why? The board brought him in .. They don't like accountability.. Punished like this is perfect justice.
Mick going away quietly does not fix our underLYING problem people...( the board) is the big Satan.
Mick is little Satan

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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:51 am 
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Rexy wrote:
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He can be a coach and you can't gag him. Or he can leave on his terms.
Why do you want a gag order on him anyway?
Don't you want to know what's going on at our club?
If he is lying they can go to court..
Personally I want to hear what he has to say because there is much more behind the scenes this club isn't saying.
This is a perfect storm for a board collapse.

I wouldn't believe a word he says.

Totally untrustworthy.



Trigg is trustworthy then,?
The board?
You can see how they all came together in this unholy matriMONEY

The obvious thing is to run in and stop damage being done..
In this case it's best to sit back and watch them shoot each other up.
We should be encouraging exactly that..
In the end we just want our club back.. That's all!

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I don't believe any of their shit.


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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:57 am 
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I actually want to hear more from Mick then I want the board and trigg to respond in kind.

why would I want gag orders put on anybody working for our club.
I know clubs have ethics where they keep dirt in house... Lol
Look at Essendon*.
Let's get some integrity and honesty and transparency back into this football club..

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