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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:03 am 
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I think Fev needs a lesson in humility and humanity.
He should be sent to do community service in an orphanage in South Africa .
To work with children who have lost their parents in the AIDS pandemic there.


Does plenty of that stuff in Australia....he goes well out of his way and he certainly doesn't have to, he chooses to.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:08 am 
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HELLAS BLUE wrote:
Synbad wrote:
I think Fev needs a lesson in humility and humanity.
He should be sent to do community service in an orphanage in South Africa .
To work with children who have lost their parents in the AIDS pandemic there.


Does plenty of that stuff in Australia....he goes well out of his way and he certainly doesn't have to, he chooses to.

hes in a hospital for 2 minutes.. he should have to clean up toilets in aids hospitals...
his life is too shallow...
he needs his eyes opened to the wider world....

popping in with a footy to a hospital to see a kid who has had chemo for 2 mins.. or 30 mins then running out and getting himself smashed on the grog and becoming a tool...means he doesnt understand the world.

does it???

he obviously learns nothing at that level... he needs something harsher to comprehend.

the fev scenario into his future is very realistic i think....

you can support him now.. but noone will support him when the goals and money dries up....

so he better turn his life around now... eh???

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:10 am 
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Synbad wrote:
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And Swans won a flag with Barry Hall and WC with Ben Cousins.......


North with Wayne Carey......Bummers with Paul Van Der Har.......Cats with Steve Johnson.....we can on and on if you like.

when you take a shit.. a truck doesnt still come around the back and remove it once a week does it???

the worlds changing....

if footballers dont want to be role models they can play in the suburban league... they wont have to be role models.

Its a billion dollar industry.... like any big dollar industry ... there are standards.. because so much money is riding on it...


Well Fevola certainly sets the standard when it comes to full forwards in the AFL. 99 goals last year, Coleman medalist this year and all this with very little support. When you look at Franklin, he has Roughead. Reiwoldt has Kositchke. Brown has Bradshaw. Lloyd and Lucas had each other. None of these players chase their opponents out of defence and provide frontal pressure. Fevola does this 9/10 times and gets heavily criticised for the 1/10 times he doesn't. He is simply an easy target for anyone that wants a headline.

As for role models, Chris Judd himself came out and said that it's unfair for footballers to be expected to be role models. According to your theory, we should be looking at trading Judd as well.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:12 am 
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Synbad wrote:
HELLAS BLUE wrote:
Synbad wrote:
I think Fev needs a lesson in humility and humanity.
He should be sent to do community service in an orphanage in South Africa .
To work with children who have lost their parents in the AIDS pandemic there.


Does plenty of that stuff in Australia....he goes well out of his way and he certainly doesn't have to, he chooses to.

hes in a hospital for 2 minutes.. he should have to clean up toilets in aids hospitals...
his life is too shallow...
he needs his eyes opened to the wider world....

popping in with a footy to a hospital to see a kid who has had chemo for 2 mins.. or 30 mins then running out and getting himself smashed on the grog and becoming a tool...means he doesnt understand the world.

does it???

he obviously learns nothing at that level... he needs something harsher to comprehend.

the fev scenario into his future is very realistic i think....

you can support him now.. but noone will support him when the goals and money dries up....

so he better turn his life around now... eh???


You know what they say about the word assume don't you? You're clearly just guessing in order to try and prove your point re gamotto....perhaps you should pair up with Greg Denham? Two peas in a pod you'd be!! :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:59 am 
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Well you might have a little cry if you knew what i knew...

ill let you in on something....


Massive massive chance that Fev wont be at Carlton next year..

So he must be doing something wrong....right???

You and the bananas in pyjamas... 5 peas in a pod...

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 12:24 pm 
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Yeah, I have an emerging sense that tomorrow is going to be a big, big day.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 12:26 pm 
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camelboy wrote:
Yeah, I have an emerging sense that tomorrow is going to be a big, big day.


and FRIDAY! even bigger?


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 12:30 pm 
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camelboy wrote:
Yeah, I have an emerging sense that tomorrow is going to be a big, big day.


well looks as if Stevo is finishing up and possibility that the Fev is gonna get the arse leaves us plenty of room in the cap for another big fish............

who could we target???

The Pav???


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 12:38 pm 
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I've occasionally known to be wrong, but I'd be surprised if Fevola isn't at Carlton for the next two years.


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As much as I hate your trolling, I reckon this is correct. Fev aint going anywhere.

BUT, the club should suspend him from round 1 and 2 next year..... it wont, but it should.

And any subsequent action, no matter how insignificant, should see a suspension again.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 1:03 pm 
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I'd prefer to see him playing, it's going to be hard enough without Judd for the first three games, it could mean all the difference between a good or a bad 2010. Don't want to start the year like Richmond did.

If you really want to shake him up, take 25 off him and give him 10.


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Not sure how true this is and maybe someone with inner knowledge can debunk this one. His management are threatening legal action against any reporting of a particular story doing the rounds.


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As much as I hate your trolling, I reckon this is correct. Fev aint going anywhere.

BUT, the club should suspend him from round 1 and 2 next year..... it wont, but it should.

And any subsequent action, no matter how insignificant, should see a suspension again.

So we'd go from "1 more strike and you're out" to "1 more strike and we'll suspend you for another week". We all know how this story will end.

I don't want Fev gone, but the fact is he's making us look stupid and weak, and it seems a different set of rules applies to him both from the club and from supporters. When is the @#$%&! penny going to drop once and for all?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 1:43 pm 
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They should send Fev away for the preseason - get him to turn up a couple days before the first round of the NAB cup- Make him train on his own make him be accountable for all his own actions give him the responsibility of if he wants to play next year he better turn up ready and fit to play

It will teach him to be accountable to himself and it will also give Ratts and the team the entire preseason of development of a forward structure without Fev in it



Either that of piss him off all together

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 1:50 pm 
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Donstuie wrote:
bluechucky wrote:
As much as I hate your trolling, I reckon this is correct. Fev aint going anywhere.

BUT, the club should suspend him from round 1 and 2 next year..... it wont, but it should.

And any subsequent action, no matter how insignificant, should see a suspension again.

So we'd go from "1 more strike and you're out" to "1 more strike and we'll suspend you for another week". We all know how this story will end.

I don't want Fev gone, but the fact is he's making us look stupid and weak, and it seems a different set of rules applies to him both from the club and from supporters. When is the !@#$%& penny going to drop once and for all?


I'm a fan of Swann, but he [REDACTED] up there.

We were never going to follow through on it.... we didn't even have the balls to keep that clause in the contract when the contract was renewed.

Any parent knows that you simply cannot make idle threats as you will be called up on it.

Fact is Fev is:

1. Worthless on the trade table.... we'd be lucky to get a 2nd round pick for him and thats generous.
2. Is pivotal to our chances of getting a premiership in the next 2-4 years.

He now needs to be treated like Cloke and Betts and miss a few games.

Yes, it has the potential to really @#$%&! up our 2010 campaign, but it might also help make our footy team... at very least it'll have his team mates on his back to think of more than just himself.

Its a risk I would take, but then I'm just a footy forum admin.

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He's frustrated me many a time, just like everyone. But I've never seriously considered that he wouldn't play for Carlton.

Seems I better get used to the idea.

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Just to clarify one thing, the threat by Swanny in regards to the one strike and your out does not exist anymore.
This threat was made at the start of the 2008 season and was subsequently removed (through contract negotiations) for his contract extension which commenced this year and ends 2011. So that threat no longer hangs over his head.

So mentioning it is pointless because the club were never made to make the call. Now I realise it is fairly easy for us supporters and media types to flippantly say get rid of him and enough is enough but there are commercial and contractual implications so it is never that black & white

Just keep that in mind and the fact that there may not always be these intangible benefits by simply discarding marquee players of Fev's ilk for cultural gains that are impossible to measure. Sure, get rid of Fev but make sure there is a suitable return at the other end. We need to stay prudent and pragmatic at all times.

I'm not here to argue whether to keep him or not but some of these points apply

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:18 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Well you might have a little cry if you knew what i knew...

ill let you in on something....


Massive massive chance that Fev wont be at Carlton next year..

So he must be doing something wrong....right???


LOL, I'll let you in on a little secret as well.....

Massive massive chance that Fev will not only be at Carlton next year but may lead us to that elusive GF appearance....

So he must be doing something right.....right?

Considering all the stuff he's done wrong. :lol:

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Ah yes.. except the board has met a few times in the last 3 or so days and have ratified a reccomendation by the CEO...

Apart from that you might be right...

Look.. im a huge Fev supporter.. but really enough is enough and the stakes are too high now.

A few scenarios have come to light over the weekend...

But i hear.. the CEO doesnt want to be the man laughed at because of Fev...

So Fev at Cartlton next year looks very slim... one way or the other....

..... at this moment of time.. considering the board has voted to support Swann unanimously... it doesnt look good for Fev.

I hear ... he HAS been told .,...

But then again... who knows how these things are played out when push comes to shove...

But Hellas ou might know better than Swanny...

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:36 pm 
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marciblue wrote:
Just to clarify one thing, the threat by Swanny in regards to the one strike and your out does not exist anymore.
This threat was made at the start of the 2008 season and was subsequently removed (through contract negotiations) for his contract extension which commenced this year and ends 2011. So that threat no longer hangs over his head.

So mentioning it is pointless because the club were never made to make the call. Now I realise it is fairly easy for us supporters and media types to flippantly say get rid of him and enough is enough but there are commercial and contractual implications so it is never that black & white

Just keep that in mind and the fact that there may not always be these intangible benefits by simply discarding marquee players of Fev's ilk for cultural gains that are impossible to measure. Sure, get rid of Fev but make sure there is a suitable return at the other end. We need to stay prudent and pragmatic at all times.

I'm not here to argue whether to keep him or not but some of these points apply


It might have been removed... but i hear the AFL's rules and conditions of conduct becoming and bringing the game into disrepute still stand.... ALL players sign this with every contract.... Fev is no exception.. and as we know the club and the AFL can work together on this matter...

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