We keep getting told that the list is superior to what it was years ago, but in actual fact no one really knows if that is true. Outside of Cripps our midfield is way too fukn small from where I sit, and take it to the bank that no one with any cred is going to want to come and help.

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The list is suffering from confidence issues. Confidence issues in themselves and in their teammates.

Inability to win the close ones is having an even worse effect than the beltings.

Team feels disjointed and everyone seems to be looking over their shoulder.

How much of that stems from the coaches? Our run has disappeared, playing static footy with young bodies is a recipe for disaster. The boundary game plan is a predictable disaster.

I’ve used disaster a lot. Bolton’s lack of confidence is filtering through and I think it’s the cause of the disaster. He needs to focus on his strengths and delegate his weak areas out.

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We're getting Brad Scott, aren’t we?

So bad the vision shown by On the Couch

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

They replay the whole thing did they?

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O say does that star spangled banner yet wave.

Just some behind the goals footage of our setup

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Huge call what we do with our coaching set up. Worst thing would be to sack Bolton and end up with an inexperienced replacement who has to learn the ropes all over again. Options seem to be Scott, Lyon, Clarkson (ideal) or Roos in the Walls role with Bolton or an untried coach. Interesting times

The more I think about it the more I want him gone. Our forward line should be worrying teams, but our ball movement is so bad we aren't a threat

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this is my biggest worry too. we lose a lot of these kids and the rebuild will go back to square one

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Seems people want bolts gone but are also scarred from the malthouse experience of replacing a young coach with a grumpy angry old guy.

Malthouse got rid of everything good and destroyed it, that won’t happen this time.

We won’t have players with currency being delisted or shipped off for pick 60 out of spite.

Also how much worse could things possibly get on-field? Go from winning less than 10% to 0%?

It’s a tough one, I wouldn’t be doing anything just yet, but the Gold Coast game was the one for me which made me think he’s not going to be the guy to take us forward.

As for the complex game plan, I’m not buying that it will pay off. Wouldn’t it make more sense to have a simpler game plan and introduce elements when the players are ready? Has there ever been an example of a coach being so poor in wins and losses turning it around to become a successful coach?

Now I could be wrong, I hope I am and bolts is a coach when we are making finals. The odds of that look less and less by the week, having any run of 42 games when you have only won 4 is horrendous.

What other clubs this century have that bad a 42 game run? I’m thinking possibly expansion teams and that’s about it.

I think the tide of popular opinion has turned on Bolts and it’s more likely than not he will be gone by August.

I said before the season started that I feared he wouldn’t survive the winter and, unfortunately, I think I’m going to be right.

He’d be entitled to wonder how things might have worked out differently if we’d had more luck with injury and we’d picked up Shiel or another experienced mid. Winning a few of those close ones would have made a difference too.

As it is, it might be a Brendan McCartney at the Dogs situation; he’s done the hard yards but someone else needs to come in and lift us to another level.

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I haven't given up on Bolts yet, if we can get a win the confidence can carry into many more games, just look at the dogs game where a bit of pressure was lifted and carried into the start of the hawks game.

Unfortunately we coped a couple injuries to our backline, some iffy umpiring (of which the ump was dropped to vfl) and seeds of doubt were sown yet again and confidence completely shattered against the roos.

If we can get a couple wins on the trot, I do believe that we will rise quite quickly, if we can't then the weight of pressure will see the board make the popular decision to sack the coach with no plan of who will replace Bolts. I hope the board has the stomach to stick with Bolts unless they have secured the coach that is clearly better than Bolts like a Clarkson.

To sack Bolts to put in another inexperienced coach or mature coach that is not a fit for our group will only put us back to where we started 4 years ago. If we can't get a Clarkson, Simpson or Longmire then stick fat with bolts and look to improve the coaching group and get a mentor that is a better fit for the club maybe Bellamy might be worth a look.

I feel pretty much the same on all points.

I do feel bad for Bolts though, I like the guy but I'm just so conflicted about him as a coach.

I honestly think it is the way we are playing that annoys the most - If we were getting beaten 120 to 105 I think the fans could stomach it but losing 70 to 55 and playing numbers behind the ball and slow movement of the ball like we have been doing for four (4) years is killing the enthusiasm.

I doubt if he will get sacked but at the break they need to come back and play the last 10 games as all out attack
If fans could see Mckay kicking 50 plus goals - Dow racking up the stats and a fast paced exciting brand of footy you could see some hope for the future and who knows they might build confidence and snag a few more wins - If you are a forward have 3 and 4 shots on goal if you are lucky the margin for error and pressure to kick the goal is immense - but if he is have 7-8 shots on goal it is different

Sure we still might lose but give the fans something -this dour game style and still losing is not doing anything to help the situation
If we were winning I couldn't care less if the scores were 40 to 36 but we are not so change it up and see what happens

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You don't stick with rubbish. Look at the scoreboard. The key is to pick the right coach, like the Dogs did changing from McCartney to Beverige with a young, building developing side. 4 of our last 5 coaching appointment have been putrid.

Agree with totally you, Bolton is stunned and disoriented needs a quality senior mentor (recently retired), my choice would be Paul Roos , if he were interested , balanced professionally, good insight into our game , will inspire Brendon Bolton to reach better goals.
If we want the tougher edge slant with plenty of passion, sound tactically then it’s Scott.

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This is professional football. To have a coach come in to coach the coach is not an option IMO.

We must find the right man to coach this team. The sooner that search starts, the better.

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I'm going to go against the grain and tell you why we should stick with him.

a) I do not believe that we are losing because of the head coach. The reality is that the list is not that good. Gibbs was one of our best and he's struggling to get a game at Adelaide, (who aren't that good).
b) The game plan isn't the problem. Does anyone really believe we radically changed game plans for the Bulldogs game? Doubt it. The players are getting overwhelmed and it's falling apart. See point a).
c) What would we usually do in this situation? How well has that worked for us? Rather than continue to repeat the same mistakes over and over let's stick with someone for a change.
d) I don't believe that he has lost the players. (We've clearly lost the umps, but that's a different discussion). Far from players with potential wanting to leave the club they all keep signing up.
e) Sacking the coach gives the players an easy out. In fact it gives everyone else an easy out. All that happens though is that we go down the same path again.
f) I don't believe in the messiah coach idea, (and surprisingly some here still do). We've seen it how well it works with Pagan and Malthouse. Both those guys replaced young "learning" coaches and neither did any better.

We have turned over 52 players in four years because they were deemed not good enough
why should the coach and his staff be afforded the luxury of keeping their jobs if they are not performing

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I don’t want anyone sacked for not doing their job.

What I do want is for people to do their job.

At the moment, I’m seeing little achievement.

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