Relax everyone, next years draft we are going
to pick up keys, just ask Shane Rodgers....
Gripps and Holman, good gets, not sure about Giles,
have not seen him play..
Preseason and rookie drafts, we may produce,
Thorp, Tippett, Fort, Heppell, Cain, templeton and ''HOURIGAN''.....
Thorp, Tippett and hourigan, I would be very happy if we can
land those 3...

We need to do a Dyson like deal next year with one of GWS or GCS key position players. There's a stack of early picks there and they won't be able to keep them all.

Dixon, Day, Gorringe, Lynch (I know he re-signed) from GCS and Boyd, Patton, Cameron, Jaksch, McCartyh from GWS.

Surely we could get one of them if we get in their ears early enough.

Add Tomlinson to the GWS list.

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That's more than they need.

There's going to be some who miss out, and they aint going to like being overlooked and spectating.

I believe we are targeting KPs from other clubs too....the less we say the better.

We'll pick up a KP or 2 next year, and if ours can stay fit this year, we'll do allright.

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..dreaming....

..lookit, most clubs target opposition club's young talent, kpps are high on everybody's wishlist.. ..yes if some kid [especially an interstater] wants to go home and nominates their club, they might get closer to market value, but hbfs dont command the same sort of fantasies as kpps, and a vic club has plenty of local competition for their services.. .... ..so forget about shaking loose a gc/gws young kpp for nix..

..and!!.. ..can we some day, hopefully soon,, wean ourselves off the habit of trading away draft picks every bleeding year [or almost every year].. ..why waste our own draft picks [in a kpp heavy draft no less], and pay overs cash wise to bring in talent instead of using the draft for what it is.. ..we need as much overall talent as we can get, you never build a team of it by trades and/or buying in free agents on a regular, frequent basis.. ..or in a short term we'll tie up our tpp for the next 10 yrs, again..

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..in all honesty, i doubt we'll pick up much kpp talent next year.. ..in the draft and during off-season.. ..all the spruiking is rubbish..

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It will cost us...dont you worry about that....there'll be no quality KP's for nix....we just need an opportunity to get one or two.

GWS will not hold on to all of them despite the talent each one has...you can bet on that.
I dont think its a target which any club will dismiss...its another channel to talent, just as is drafting, international recruits.
I expect our club to shake every tree and look under every stone for talent across the whole country as well as overseas.
Tuohy goes pretty good.

I agree about your view on the draft picks only because we haven't used those picks wisely in my opinion.
Now, if you refer to Hawks trading picks for players, they have 11 of them, and it has worked for them.
I do believe we will do well from the draft next year and plug a few holes.

Most Carlton supporters couldn't believe, let alone dream that we would land Judd. Anything is possible.

Carlton brand still stands for a lot more than some of its supporters suggest.

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..it costs too much in picks and contracts to fish for high end essential talent every couple of seasons, its how you wind up with some stars and plenty of plodders (no depth), kpps especially don't come cheap, hawks built their team by draft, and selective off season trading.. ..we do it in opposite fashion..

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It won't cost as much if you can get them to nominate you as the preference club. GWS can't possibly be able to hold on to all of them, they have to let some go for below their value.

That's why I said a Dyson-like deal, he cost Melbourne just a 7 pick downgrade in the first round, for a former top 3 pick.

Get in their ears early is the key.

Already in Tomlinson's ear apparently.

Yep, we do things in opposite on most occasions, even in the draft we take risks with picks in the teens and play it by the book with latish selections. I don't think Giles is a Hughes type selection but I think Holman might be. Cripps is a make or break for Rogers, one would expect.

As for the thought of poaching key forwards, we should trade into the draft if we can but if we want one from another club who is worth the effort it will be Fantasy Land at best and at worst downright foolhardy.

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..that dyson type deal involved dees pick 2, for a mid.. ..that 7 spot downgrade in top ten isn't slight either.. ..a kpp won't be cheap, fair chance our first pick will be outside top ten.. ..we can't afford a dyson deal for a mid, and we can just shake free a kpp?, it will take a top pick to start talking, or a big name..

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Depends who we are talking about - Cameron and Boyd will be untouchable, Patton would cost a top 3 pick or similar level talent. If Tomlinson is the target he will cost but not in the same ballpark.
Pick 9 in a comprised draft and wanting out due to lack of opportunity (and ideally choosing us) would mean a mid 1st rounder or equivalent player would be the likely cost

Agree that Cripps will make or break Rogers. However, we need to give the kid 3 years

So far the in's,
Thomas, Docherty, Cripps and Holman, all potential mids..
Everitt and Giles both talls, either end by the sounds of things..
We now the opportunity to add a couple of key forwards,
1. Mitch thorp, 24yr ready to go, moves well and kicks goals.
2. Darcy hourigan, 18yr who plays like Stewart crameri
Ex Essendon* player now at the Dogs, good mix with hendo and thorp.
We have the opportunity to have a good foward line, would also allow,
Everitt and Giles to play back..
Our forward line could be,
Garlett Henderson Thomas
Menzel Thorp Hourigan
Guess we will find out Wednesday morning how many
more midfielders we will add.....

...and... 2 others I'm hearing from a carlton great.

The point is the club is not sitting idly hoping for a KPP or two.

The cost is the cost for a KPP. All elite players cost whether they be midfielders or KPP.
Youngsters taken early like a J. Kennedy we got a number 4 cost us pick 4.
Now the fact we are unlikely to inherit a high pick due to lowly position on the ladder means we have to find other ways.
Sitting on our bum doing nothing is not an option...so I dont know why BKB is thinking it can't happen.

If a KPP from elsewhere asks for a trade to Carlton, it just makes things easier than harder.

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Gee, I'm impressed with our three new recruits at today's media conference. Well spoken, genuine, measured. I think we have three ripper blokes there.

(Just need to brush up on some Carlton history which I'm sure will be inculcated!)

Werent they impressive? I thought Giles in particular spoke very well. They look so young, it must be so daunting for them.

..it is doable yes, but not easy.. ..how many years now is there talk of us needing kpps, how many have we gotten?, it isn't easy.. ..we tried this year, we tried last year, we keep hearing we are in player x ear, but nada.. ..unless we pay overs, which I don't want to do, hence my opinion we build up thru draft, yet in a big draft year we are already thinking of trading in a kpp.. ..with what?, our first rounder?, instead of using the draft??, are we that defeatist in terms of drafting and developing kpps?..

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I agree. He may be what we were hoping for in Mitchell.