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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 10:34 pm 
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Sustained pressure requires fit players. So we’re back to selection.



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 10:38 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
]Forget selection. There's enough talent in the team. The key will be pressure. If we play 4 quarters of high pressure, unrelenting football, we'll be every chance to win. Champion Data put out some info earlier this week that if Brisbanes opponents bring higher than 180 pressure, Brisbane have won 4 from 10 games.
We're the best pressure team when the mindset if correct. That's what it comes down to. Can our selected players bring 4 quarters of the pressure required. No lapses.

(straight kicking in front of goal would be a bonus as well) :grin:




impossible to. bringing 6 ins from injury requires a huge lump of luck for all 6 to not just get thru the game, but get up to game speed, be clean, run it out and not stop.

it's almost an impossible task to achieve from all 6 players. feels like we're starting the game handicapped. i really hope i'm wrong, and i hope each to a man proves me wrong, bcos it's going to take that to even keep this game close.


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Well, many pundits had the Dogs as their second or third flag favourites, and now they're gone with nary a whimper. I take some encouragement from that... it's anyone's flag, and we are anyone!


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 11:01 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
Sustained pressure requires fit players. So we’re back to selection.



100%

running hard, and running out games.

All the more reason not to select Moir and Lord who I believe don't yet have the necessary fitness levels.

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I have no inside word nor have I even read it as a rumour, but I do wonder if this talk about Doc might be because he’s going to pull the pin.

3 knee recos, 2 cancer battles….maybe his body has had enough.


Doc and other players (Weiters) have been talking about his arc coming close to the end. but could just mean his second last season. who knows?


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or....maybe.... he has been building a big boat to fill with animals..... and he has almost finished it

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 11:07 pm 
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Humpers wrote:
Braithy wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
Sustained pressure requires fit players. So we’re back to selection.



100%

running hard, and running out games.

All the more reason not to select Moir and Lord who I believe don't yet have the necessary fitness levels.



lord has more probability to run out a game tomorrow than doc, cerra and williams combined.

moir would have been a handy sub.


looking at deer tonight, made me think moir is going to be better, at least with more x factor and speed. but we haven't seen enough.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 11:19 pm 
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Moir’s the one I’m really disappointed about.

We totally miss an X factor at the moment and he’s provided more in two quarters in the forward line than the rest of our list in a long time.

From memory when Cerra came back earlier in the year we played him 60% game time.

If Moir doesn’t have the tank why not manage him into it?

It’s been a long time since we had a no name pop up for four or five goals.

Eddie Betts comes to mind.

Moir shows the sort of spark that could catch a team unaware.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 11:26 pm 
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sinbagger wrote:
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sinbagger wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
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Sustained pressure requires fit players. So we’re back to selection.


I disagree. It comes down to mindset. Fitness means jack shit if you don't have the hunger. Jaxon Binns could probably outrun any player in our team but he doesn't have the physical intent at the moment. I'd take any of the recent selections over him easily.


You sound confused, you say only mindset is import, then you say even though Binns has the right mindset but you wouldn’t pick him due to physicality?


Did I say Binns has the right mindset in my post? Where exactly?


Not really sure what you meant, you started out talking out mindset, then wandered over to endurance running, then ended up with physical intent.

Not sure what that’s got to do with picking physically fit (ie that have sufficiently recovered from injury) players.

Edit: fwiw I don’t think Binns is ready for finals yet either, but I think Lord and Cincotta are.


So I didn't say it. Maybe you're the one who is confused?
Or maybe you're just full of shit which sounds more likely. Go troll someone else.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 11:27 pm 
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Moir’s the one I’m really disappointed about.

We totally miss an X factor at the moment and he’s provided more in two quarters in the forward line than the rest of our list in a long time.

From memory when Cerra came back earlier in the year we played him 60% game time.

If Moir doesn’t have the tank why not manage him into it?

It’s been a long time since we had a no name pop up for four or five goals.

Eddie Betts comes to mind.

Moir shows the sort of spark that could catch a team unaware.
You are kidding
Moir best effort in the 2nds this year was 2 goals one of which was a joe the goose
You seriously think he is going to kick 5 in a final.
He has played 2 quarters of football
His efforts and application in the reserves was woeful

Did you actually watch any of his games this year


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 11:37 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
Humpers wrote:
Braithy wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
Sustained pressure requires fit players. So we’re back to selection.



100%

running hard, and running out games.

All the more reason not to select Moir and Lord who I believe don't yet have the necessary fitness levels.



lord has more probability to run out a game tomorrow than doc, cerra and williams combined.

moir would have been a handy sub.


looking at deer tonight, made me think moir is going to be better, at least with more x factor and speed. but we haven't seen enough.


I'm a big fan of Lord and I'm disappointed he's out but he has been in the AFL system 3 months. He hasn't played 70% game time in his 2 games. Cerra and Williams have years of pre-seasons behind them. I agree they're more of an injury risk but they're going to have more in the tank than Cooper Lord IMHO.

As for Moir, I'm disappointed as well he isn't sub. He was clean and dangerous in his limited showings.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 11:40 pm 
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Moir’s the one I’m really disappointed about.

We totally miss an X factor at the moment and he’s provided more in two quarters in the forward line than the rest of our list in a long time.

From memory when Cerra came back earlier in the year we played him 60% game time.

If Moir doesn’t have the tank why not manage him into it?

It’s been a long time since we had a no name pop up for four or five goals.

Eddie Betts comes to mind.

Moir shows the sort of spark that could catch a team unaware.
You are kidding
Moir best effort in the 2nds this year was 2 goals one of which was a joe the goose
You seriously think he is going to kick 5 in a final.
He has played 2 quarters of football
His efforts and application in the reserves was woeful

Did you actually watch any of his games this year


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He wouldn’t be the first player to play at a different level in the seniors when surrounded by skilled experienced players rather than a bunch of guys with little hope of making that level.

We’re not winning a flag with the same old.

Change it up FFS.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 11:47 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
[quote="sinbagger"]Sustained pressure requires fit players. So we’re back to selection.


I disagree. It comes down to mindset. Fitness means jack shit if you don't have the hunger. Jaxon Binns could probably outrun any player in our team but he doesn't have the physical intent at the moment. I'd take any of the recent selections over him easily.


You sound confused, you say only mindset is import, then you say even though Binns has the right mindset but you wouldn’t pick him due to physicality?


Did I say Binns has the right mindset in my post? Where exactly?


Not really sure what you meant, you started out talking out mindset, then wandered over to endurance running, then ended up with physical intent.

Not sure what that’s got to do with picking physically fit (ie that have sufficiently recovered from injury) players.

Edit: fwiw I don’t think Binns is ready for finals yet either, but I think Lord and Cincotta are.


So I didn't say it. Maybe you're the one who is confused?
Or maybe you're just full of shit which sounds more likely. Go troll someone else.[/quote]

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2024 12:02 am 
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Well, many pundits had the Dogs as their second or third flag favourites, and now they're gone with nary a whimper. I take some encouragement from that... it's anyone's flag, and we are anyone!


A couple of blowouts from games predicted to be close. We're predicted to be a big margin. Hopefully we have the close one tomorrow night, keep it in contest and end up on the right side of the ledger.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2024 12:07 am 
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https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/16475 ... XyMBmtjHQA

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"They’ve been there for a lot of the journey. Two or three haven’t played a lot of football this year, so they’re the ones we’ll keep an eye on, but the work that they’ve been able to do and the preparation they’ve been able to put in... high performance is very different back to when I played. We monitor them very closely and try and provide a game-like environment: we’ve been able to do that over the last few weeks, so we feel like they’re ready to go."


I love Vossy.
His comments about the umpires are perfect. :grin:

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Blue Vain wrote:
Braithy wrote:
Humpers wrote:
Braithy wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
Sustained pressure requires fit players. So we’re back to selection.



100%

running hard, and running out games.

All the more reason not to select Moir and Lord who I believe don't yet have the necessary fitness levels.



lord has more probability to run out a game tomorrow than doc, cerra and williams combined.

moir would have been a handy sub.


looking at deer tonight, made me think moir is going to be better, at least with more x factor and speed. but we haven't seen enough.


I'm a big fan of Lord and I'm disappointed he's out but he has been in the AFL system 3 months. He hasn't played 70% game time in his 2 games. Cerra and Williams have years of pre-seasons behind them. I agree they're more of an injury risk but they're going to have more in the tank than Cooper Lord IMHO.

As for Moir, I'm disappointed as well he isn't sub. He was clean and dangerous in his limited showings.


fair point about lord's playing time. he looked shot in the 4th against the eagles, but he was still running hard and got cleaner as the game went on with the saints. it was that little improvement that gave me hope he'd go for longer.

and moir is hugely disappointing. he never put a foot wrong, and looked dangerous every time we went forward. if the game's close, unleashing him in the 4th qtr could have swung it our way. but alas.


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Just #$%^& win!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2024 8:08 am 
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It’s going to take everything going right, but FMD, surely we’re due a change of luck at some point.

If we go down, I hope we’ve been so hard at it that Brisbane can’t possibly go again next week.

Go Carlton.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2024 8:10 am 
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i hope swans and gws beat the shit out of each other, and there's a dozen injuries and suspensions that cooks their season.

you know, just in case we get up tonight.


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I just want us to win and stick it up the commentators, the afl, the other clubs and their wanker supporters.


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Especially Kane Cornes who says we have 'zero chance'

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