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Who should coach us next year?
Brad Scott 16%  16%  [ 16 ]
Michael Voss 20%  20%  [ 19 ]
Mark Williams 11%  11%  [ 11 ]
Don Pyke 22%  22%  [ 21 ]
Danny Daly 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Scott Burns 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Giansiracusa 5%  5%  [ 5 ]
Jaymie Graham 3%  3%  [ 3 ]
Adam Kingsley 16%  16%  [ 16 ]
Adam Yze 3%  3%  [ 3 ]
Nigel Lappin 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Jarrad Schofield 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Steven King 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:38 pm 
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Fact - Luke wants an experienced coach

My view, my story

1) Lyon knows he won’t get it - Knows he’s up against a better option

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2) figures there is no other ‘experienced coach’ - calling our bluff


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:39 pm 
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My initial reaction is "what a sh!t show".
Also, I feel like Ross is exactly the sort of coach we need right now (although I realise he might leave us in a list management hole in 6 years...).

HOWEVER, him pulling out is likely to open the process up to many other candidates who were going to avoid b/c they thought it was a done deal and they would be made to look stupid.
So, ironically, we may end up with more candidates, rather than left with no-one.

But it will take big cahunas to select someone other than Ross.

PS. That leaked Review report is turning out to be pretty accurate... Preference for Clarkson. But if not, then a proper process. Concerns about Lyon re Carlton Respects....


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:44 pm 
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Well this just underscores that we are in fact a rabble. If its true that Lloyd approached Brad Scott, by who's authority?

I'm all for process, but this smacks now of panic.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:49 pm 
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I told you the board was the problem. They are a joke. No one wants to coach us.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:50 pm 
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Can we invite Gerard Healy back on to the panel now?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:51 pm 
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AIRCAV wrote:
Well this just underscores that we are in fact a rabble. If its true that Lloyd approached Brad Scott, by who's authority?

I'm all for process, but this smacks now of panic.


Not at all

A proper process would selectively target (talk to) those that fit. Invite them into a process.

Nothing at all unusual about Lloyd contacted Scott if it was his role to do and part of the process


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:56 pm 
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Well that one caught me by surprise. Can I vote again?
What's Wayne Brittain doing nowadays?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:05 pm 
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bluebo baggers wrote:
Can we invite Gerard Healy back on to the panel now?


Mr. Know It All got it very wrong. What's the real excuse?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:08 pm 
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Don’t agree can’t win Club laughed at Carlton never go through proper process for coaches and will just appoint Ross Lyon they have a proper process and Ross Lyon doesn’t want to go through it so pulls out club is pillioried for losing Ross Lyon


Ridiculous crap I hoped that Lyon would be selected but if he can’t be bothered being intervened and won’t be assessed against other potential coaches then he does not want it enough

Even more important that he goes through process when he hasn’t coached for 2 years


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:10 pm 
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Last week he wanted to go through the process.
This week the process is apparently protracted and he doesn't feel the need to audition.
Way way way too much noise coming from Ross. I'm tempted to think this is for the better.


Yep.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:10 pm 
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Maybe Ross thought his various Carlton connections would be enough.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:13 pm 
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Walsh wrote:
This board wouldn't know how to run a hotdog stand outside a nightclub.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Well that says to me the Board are not drug dealers. That's a good thing, isn't it!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:14 pm 
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Ronald McDonald would be a perfect fit for this club...

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:19 pm 
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I don't really blame Lyon.

A 7 stage interview process is a sham for someone with his coaching pedigree. You interview him and let him outline his coaching philosophy.

If you don't know what sort of coach he will be.you shouldn't be at an AFL club.

Thev"process" can find you a better fit between Craig Macrae and Jaymee Graham.

If Clarko isn't the pot of gold at the end of this rainbow, and we end up with a Buckley or Scott, I'll be joining the Carlton Now push

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:29 pm 
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Wow we are a laughing stock.

Absolute joke. This is actually embarrassing - not so much Ross Lyon being coach but the way we've courted him and Clarkson and how its blown up in our faces.


Is that your take on it?

Not mine.

Clarko had/has the job if he likes the offer and wants it. He's a current coach only a week out of the game, and has runs on the board. No brainer.

Lyon has been a potential candidate for the position all along.

Lyon said no one from Carlton had spoken to him when he made it obvious he was interested in the Head Coach role at Carlton. On the night Teague's sacking was announced, Sayers made it perfectly clear that he was setting up a Sub Committee to select a coach: the best coach. He also said it would be remiss of him not to have a plan A, B, C, D and E when thinking of options outside Teague: Lyon was one, Clarkson was the other, there was obviously at least 2 others, d, and e.

Since then Sayers did not say the Head Coach job was offered to Lyon, but said he did have a 45 minute chat about the process to find the Head Coach, and the role of the sub Committee. That's it.

I didn't watch that crap show Footy Classified, run by What A Croc Media. That show is all about headlines and panelists to make headlines, or, else, Hutchy would just sack them if they didn't.

Lets wait to see what this process is about.

I always believed that the consensus was that Clarkson was the best in the business, and everyone and anyone (with out hatred of Clarkson for the Battle of Britain, and/or the Fev gang up) agreed that any team that had the opportunity to sign Clarkson as their Head Coach was a winner, therefore no decision process needed.

I also thought the majority of Carlton supporters and footy tragics wanted to see Carlton run proper process to find the best coach for our list.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:33 pm 
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Maybe we were just trolling Collingwood.

They wanted Ross, we got in his ear.

Told him the job was his on big dollars.

Ross tells Pies no dice.

Pies pick McRae.

Blue put a hurdle in front of Ross.

Job done! :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:35 pm 
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So the process was throwing trillions at Clarkson then ask him to go through a process? This board is funny.

The sooner sports/football people dominate the board the better.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:36 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Nick wrote:
Wow we are a laughing stock.

Absolute joke. This is actually embarrassing - not so much Ross Lyon being coach but the way we've courted him and Clarkson and how its blown up in our faces.


.......

I also thought the majority of Carlton supporters and footy tragics wanted to see carlton run proper process to find the best coach for our list.


Totally agree there Bondi. As I said in a post a week or so ago .... We need to do this properly.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:37 pm 
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https://www.afl.com.au/news/673474/ross ... lton-coach

Ross Lyon wrote:
"I reached out to Luke and we connected … I said I just wanted some clarity," Lyon told Channel 9 on Wednesday night about his conversations with Sayers.

"They've put the panel together, but everyone says the word 'process' … there's lots of things that can go into a process. What does it look like? Is it a PowerPoint? Is it question and answer? Is it an interview? What is it?

"Anyone can run a process, it's about your quality of process and what sits within that. I said I just need some clarity and Luke was terrific. He said they were just putting some finishing touches on, which they've clearly done with the panel.

"The other part of that is clearly what the process looks like, because it's just a word. What sits within that, the mechanics and what needs to be delivered? That's what I'm unaware of and when that's put to me … then you sit down.

"Yeah, I'm interested in the process. But I've got to make sure I fit that process."


So, based on the above, it appears as though Lyon reckons he's not a good fit, so he withdraws.

What's the big deal?

It's not up to Lyon to dictate what our recruitment criteria should be, that's the board's job.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:37 pm 
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Plot twist - John Barker!!

His “resignation” was a smokescreen because the club want him for the senior coaching job! Ross Lyon was a pawn in Sayer’s game!!

It was a set up all along!!!

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