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He wanted to go for the $ and was quite happy to leave with Carlton getting nothing in return, even at a time when we are at one of the lowest points in our history. He would have liked the Scum to give is something of no worth, because that would have allowed him to say we got "something" when he left. I'm very glad that he wont be able to say that and that we didn't accept any old crap. The fact he was in the carpark waiting to stride into Carlton's home and pronounce himself a Bomber and happy to be gone speaks volumes for his character.

Good player, no leadership skills, selfish and basically a crap person. A scumbag for the scum. A perfect match.

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I dream of Bomber dissension given the arrival of Mr.Camporeale. Imagine how Mark Johnson will feel when Campo turns up, works half as hard, yet gets paid more - especially after all the hassle Johnson had to go through to get his more modest payrise.

There will be large pay claims in 2006 for the Bombers, especially as they stay in the Bottom 8.


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Campo walks around with his hands on his hips - but his thumbs face forward :shock: Who does that :?: Accept maybe a you know what 8)


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I don't blame Campo.

He wants some more money and probably some success on field also.

Maybe the Roos will pick him up, they seemed to be able to add a million players last week.

Not sure if he could handle their training facilities though.

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Braddlesforever wrote:
I don't blame Campo.

He wants some more money and probably some success on field also.

Maybe the Roos will pick him up, they seemed to be able to add a million players last week.

Not sure if he could handle their training facilities though.


Who do you blame then? He's become one of the richest AFL players off Carlton Football Club and wants to quibble over 30-50k when we're in trouble? All from a Club leader of sorts?

Well he may get more success but only a little bit - you'd have to question the benefit of coming 11th rather than 16th / 15th or so... you can't argue that the Bombers are a threat next year.

It's all about money and because of the circumstances of the move, ego.

I think Kevin's ego is in play here too - when he fails yet again with his shocking list at least we can say 'We've stolen another player from Carlton'. Gives the Bomber fans something to stir us up over, while they sit there comfortably out of the finals.

Happy that we're being saved salary cap. Now on to 2007 when we aren't paying Kouta all that cash and we can start to compete.


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Athorn the Wonderkid wrote:
Now on to 2007 when we aren't paying Kouta all that cash and we can start to compete.


Blame Collo & Elliott.

They have tried to ruin us.

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Braddlesforever wrote:
Athorn the Wonderkid wrote:
Now on to 2007 when we aren't paying Kouta all that cash and we can start to compete.


Blame Collo & Elliott.

They have tried to ruin us.


Us?!

Aren't you the guy contemplating "jumping ship"?

I'm surprised you didn't phrase it as "they have tried to ruin your club."

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The fact he was in the carpark waiting to stride into Carlton's home and pronounce himself a Bomber and happy to be gone speaks volumes for his character.


I might be mistaken, but I read this as him being available to sign a last minute deal if one was worked out...


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steve wrote:
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The fact he was in the carpark waiting to stride into Carlton's home and pronounce himself a Bomber and happy to be gone speaks volumes for his character.


I might be mistaken, but I read this as him being available to sign a last minute deal if one was worked out...


Steve,

we can sign Campo anytime we want. But we cant trade him until trade week and on last Friday was our last chance. If he is waiting in the carpark it is because he is keen to be traded not signed.


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Campo wants a mega deal to under achieve, thats why CFC doesnt want him!. Im soo glad CFC is standing there ground. I hope Campo burnt his bridges so that he can spent 2 years on an awesome wage at Essebdon but lose his mates at Carlton. You would think captaining the side on numerous occassions would mean you love and support the club no matter what and never look eye to eye to any other club.

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Braddlesforever wrote:
I don't blame Campo.

He wants some more money and probably some success on field also.

Maybe the Roos will pick him up, they seemed to be able to add a million players last week.

Not sure if he could handle their training facilities though.


He should go to the Saints they seem to like his "type" over there..

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mikey_m wrote:
steve wrote:
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The fact he was in the carpark waiting to stride into Carlton's home and pronounce himself a Bomber and happy to be gone speaks volumes for his character.


I might be mistaken, but I read this as him being available to sign a last minute deal if one was worked out...


Steve,

we can sign Campo anytime we want. But we cant trade him until trade week and on last Friday was our last chance. If he is waiting in the carpark it is because he is keen to be traded not signed.


Yeah, that's what I meant, sorry for not being clearer. But if he had been traded, surely he'd need to sign a new deal with the bombers. So I thought he was outside Optus in case the trade went through.


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Been a lot of conjecture on Campo as a quality person as well as his overpaid/budging pockets. The contract we wrote and offered it so the amount he was paid was very much our bad.

But Campo waiting outiside PP for a Essendon* jumper confirms everything that Synbad and the like have said about him for the yr. He is selfish and arrogant and a whole lot of adjectives you would care to mention. Good luck at the Bombers (if they pick him up hopefully they wont and the greedy lil snot will end up in the SANFL to carry on his whining and temper tantrums) .

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It would be good if we could forward our disgust at Camporeale directly to him through the Carlton Football club, not that he would care, the members who pay good money to the club helping him earn all that money in those 10 years and then act so spoilt and disrespectable to the Carlton club and jumper by trying to parade in a Bomber jumper.

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Assuming Campo opts for the PSD, will he put a $450K price on his head? Coz if he goes to Essendon* for $250K, it makes a mockery of him rejecting Carlton's offer.

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Can we de-list him before the National Draft so he goes into it as well? ?

Lots of benefits to this. He can't nominate an amount to be paid. He wont get the money he wants, may not end up at Essendon* and if he does they draft him rather than a kid. For us all the kids are pushed back a spot so rather than a kid going at 19 he may be available at 20.

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Harmes37 wrote:
Assuming Campo opts for the PSD, will he put a $450K price on his head? Coz if he goes to Essendon* for $250K, it makes a mockery of him rejecting Carlton's offer.


Agree with you here. It depends on what price he puts on his head. If it's the same or lower than we offered him then he will come out rather poor and I'd expect Carlton to dig it into him publicly if he does this. True club champions do not do that, walk for lower pay unless there's a serious problem.

If there was a problem then a true club champion would do that and we haven't had any true club champions leave have we? Yeah, that's right, because we haven't had true club champions play for us this past year. Sorry but I don't put Koutoufides and Camporeale (even though they are 200 game players) on the same page as Johnston, Kernahan, Walls, Nicholls, Maclure, D.McKay, Silvagni or Southby (apologies to others I've missed).

True club champions do not leave the team at its lowest ebb. True club champions do not say they will help the team back to where he started at (premiers or perennial finalists) and then break their word and leave. True club champions do not keep being paid ridiculous amounts of money just because they feel like they deserve it rather than have earnt it.

Cancereale is a true club disgrace. An example of what never should have been done. If he signs for less than he would have earnt at Carlton, I will be filthy with him because there was no motivation whatsoever given that if it was a serious problem at the club, the kids would have put their hand up and wanted to leave.

I suspect the problem we had at the club was Camporeale and his selfish attitude and demands for money that he didn't really deserve.

Sorry to be harsh and these sentiments have been posted over and over again but the more this saga has gone on, the more justified I feel in holding this position re: Scott Cancereale.

Get the hell out of my football club and don't come back until we win our next premiership.

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I can see where Campo's coming from, he's saying;
'Hey I'm a veteran, half my salary doesn't get included in the TPP. Why NOT pay me 400K?'

The club says;
'Hey, I don't give a crap about TPP, your wages still need to be payed by a club that is BROKE. You will get paid what we think is fair market value and any benefits from the V list are ours to keep. We would be happy to pay extra for you, or any other player if you were worth the money. Take it or leave it pal.'

Unfortunately, I don't think Campo will go to the bomres, they're dumb but not THAT dumb. If he does go he'll be on very similar wages to what we offered.

I reckon Campo's dispute is all about him being on the V list and the club COULD pay more.


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The Duke wrote:
I can see where Campo's coming from, he's saying;
'Hey I'm a veteran, half my salary doesn't get included in the TPP. Why NOT pay me 400K?'

The club says;
'Hey, I don't give a crap about TPP, your wages still need to be payed by a club that is BROKE. You will get paid what we think is fair market value and any benefits from the V list are ours to keep. We would be happy to pay extra for you, or any other player if you were worth the money. Take it or leave it pal.'

Unfortunately, I don't think Campo will go to the bomres, they're dumb but not THAT dumb. If he does go he'll be on very similar wages to what we offered.

I reckon Campo's dispute is all about him being on the V list and the club COULD pay more.


Fair call, but the point is he thinks he's worth it now and his manager's come out to say he won't be coming back, which means I think he wants money and he's been offered it. He wouldn't walk out just before trade week and talk publicly if he didn't think he would be offered anything.

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Let's hope that's the case, Clem. I'd love to see sheedy pay a huge price for an under weight 30yo back pocket player that has trouble kicking in.

If they offered big money, good luck to them but it wouldn't be the first or last time a club has left a player, or coach, out to dry.
Remember the Terry Wallace/Sydney fiasco? I see some similarities already :roll:


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