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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2025 8:18 pm 
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Rod Ashman

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Nah, that was SOS' "amazing" 4 for 1 GWS trade.

These recruits have been far more targetted.

Comparing established players like Ainsworth and Hayward to Glen Bowyer et al. is nonsensical.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2025 12:45 pm 
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Stephen Silvagni

Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:03 am
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Location: Bondi Beach
Sydney Blue wrote:
I was flat going into last year
Nothing we have done has changed my mind this year

smells like 2003 to me - In Morrell Harford - Teague McGrath Scotland Johnston Stevens


You missed David Clarke from Geelong. The speed demon.

What trades would have made you happy?
I had a real appetite for a player like Humphrey, and was disappointed it didn't happen, but we have picks 9 & 11 instead.

The team/list we had in 2025 is far more superior to the 2004 team imo, and a different set of circumstances leading into the Trade period.
Lets wait to see what happens after the SSP pick(s)

If you believe Injury and a lack of depth to cover injury killed our 2025 season, then its not a great comparison.
We won all games with less than 8 out injured.
We had an average of 10 out all season.

2004 wasn't impacted by injury. That team exceeded expectations.
Thank god we earned a priority pick and landed Walker; our only pick in the draft.
Maybe you are just comparing the incoming group of Trades and not the List?
I thought 2004 trades were uninspiring at the time. Players past their best.

10 wins with the addition of an A Grader in Stephens, who actually wasn't traded for.
Stevens was a PSD pick up so he doesn't count in the comparison till our SSP and rookie selections have been made.

Scotland was the quality player who had played in a GF for the Pies.
Hayward has played in 2 GF's, so has Florent.

I think Chesser has more pace and skills than Johnston, McGrath and Teague.
The latter 3 couldnt hit a target by foot.

Harwood came to us when he was past his best as a 27yo, and 28 yo the year he played.
Maybe you see the same with Florent being 27yo. Florent would kill Harwood in a foot race.

Give you a tip: Carlton 2026 team will be better and outperform the 2004 team.
Not a great comparison.

I'm hoping for a KPF and a KPD in the SSP. Then I will be more than happy, if we get a free hit with pick 9, get Dean with pick 11 and Ison, before Walker and the compromised drafts.

I think we will be better in 2026 than we were in 2025.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2025 12:53 pm 
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Robert Walls

Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:08 pm
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bondiblue wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
I was flat going into last year
Nothing we have done has changed my mind this year

smells like 2003 to me - In Morrell Harford - Teague McGrath Scotland Johnston Stevens


You missed David Clarke from Geelong. The speed demon.

What trades would have made you happy?
I had a real appetite for a player like Humphrey, and was disappointed it didn't happen, but we have picks 9 & 11 instead.

The team/list we had in 2025 is far more superior to the 2004 team imo, and a different set of circumstances leading into the Trade period.
Lets wait to see what happens after the SSP pick(s)

If you believe Injury and a lack of depth to cover injury killed our 2025 season, then its not a great comparison.
We won all games with less than 8 out injured.
We had an average of 10 out all season.

2004 wasn't impacted by injury. That team exceeded expectations.
Thank god we earned a priority pick and landed Walker; our only pick in the draft.
Maybe you are just comparing the incoming group of Trades and not the List?
I thought 2004 trades were uninspiring at the time. Players past their best.

10 wins with the addition of an A Grader in Stephens, who actually wasn't traded for.
Stevens was a PSD pick up so he doesn't count in the comparison till our SSP and rookie selections have been made.

Scotland was the quality player who had played in a GF for the Pies.
Hayward has played in 2 GF's, so has Florent.

I think Chesser has more pace and skills than Johnston, McGrath and Teague.
The latter 3 couldnt hit a target by foot.

Harwood came to us when he was past his best as a 27yo, and 28 yo the year he played.
Maybe you see the same with Florent being 27yo. Florent would kill Harwood in a foot race.

Give you a tip: Carlton 2026 team will be better and outperform the 2004 team.
Not a great comparison.

I'm hoping for a KPF and a KPD in the SSP. Then I will be more than happy, if we get a free hit with pick 9, get Dean with pick 11 and Ison, before Walker and the compromised drafts.

I think we will be better in 2026 than we were in 2025.


I agree Bondi, 2026 will be a step up.

One can’t deny the 2 recruits we brought from the Bloods (Newman and Hewett) have been a great success. Great leadership and culture. I am most excited that we’ll get more of that culture with Hayward and Florent. I expect it to elevate the energy in th joint - a shift away from the disharmony of 2025


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2025 12:58 pm 
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Stephen Silvagni

Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:03 am
Posts: 26037
Location: Bondi Beach
london blue wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
I was flat going into last year
Nothing we have done has changed my mind this year

smells like 2003 to me - In Morrell Harford - Teague McGrath Scotland Johnston Stevens


You missed David Clarke from Geelong. The speed demon.

What trades would have made you happy?
I had a real appetite for a player like Humphrey, and was disappointed it didn't happen, but we have picks 9 & 11 instead.

The team/list we had in 2025 is far more superior to the 2004 team imo, and a different set of circumstances leading into the Trade period.
Lets wait to see what happens after the SSP pick(s)

If you believe Injury and a lack of depth to cover injury killed our 2025 season, then its not a great comparison.
We won all games with less than 8 out injured.
We had an average of 10 out all season.

2004 wasn't impacted by injury. That team exceeded expectations.
Thank god we earned a priority pick and landed Walker; our only pick in the draft.
Maybe you are just comparing the incoming group of Trades and not the List?
I thought 2004 trades were uninspiring at the time. Players past their best.

10 wins with the addition of an A Grader in Stephens, who actually wasn't traded for.
Stevens was a PSD pick up so he doesn't count in the comparison till our SSP and rookie selections have been made.

Scotland was the quality player who had played in a GF for the Pies.
Hayward has played in 2 GF's, so has Florent.

I think Chesser has more pace and skills than Johnston, McGrath and Teague.
The latter 3 couldnt hit a target by foot.

Harwood came to us when he was past his best as a 27yo, and 28 yo the year he played.
Maybe you see the same with Florent being 27yo. Florent would kill Harwood in a foot race.

Give you a tip: Carlton 2026 team will be better and outperform the 2004 team.
Not a great comparison.

I'm hoping for a KPF and a KPD in the SSP. Then I will be more than happy, if we get a free hit with pick 9, get Dean with pick 11 and Ison, before Walker and the compromised drafts.

I think we will be better in 2026 than we were in 2025.


I agree Bondi, 2026 will be a step up.

One can’t deny the 2 recruits we brought from the Bloods (Newman and Hewett) have been a great success. Great leadership and culture. I am most excited that we’ll get more of that culture with Hayward and Florent. I expect it to elevate the energy in th joint - a shift away from the disharmony of 2025


4 great players from a great culture, who know chasing tackiling defending and 1 percenters are not negotiable. That stuff will be contagious with 4 former Bloods. Can't devalue that sort of skillset.

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