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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 9:16 pm 
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 11:00 pm 
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My thoughts, not that they matter…

We need to get back to a two ruck, two key forward set up. We’re fumbly and inaccurate, but we can move the ball well enough when we control first possession.

Tall targets give away our ball movement, but we’re not quick enough through the middle to gain separation under pressure. We’re not going to out run the opposition, nor run them down.

Pittonet & De Koning would be my first choice combination, by a country mile. But, Pittonet isn’t fit for the task yet. He’ll need a hit out. There’s a lot of the season still to come.

I think the notion that big men need time is shrouded in a veil of cowardice. If words hurt your feelings, then call it analysis paralysis - but it is what it is. Size & the athleticism to carry it does take time. Competitiveness does not. Some blokes look for the biggest dog in the kennel. Others look for their little brothers.

Our two fit rucks are De Koning and O’Keeffe. I think talk of hiding the million dollar man from Xerri is embarrassing for him. Skull can handle himself & I think he offers more to the overall effort than Lemmey would as a key forward.

I get a strong Courtney Johns vibe from Lemmey - in that I was way too excited & now I’m not. He’s improved physically, but a new contract is a fair way off.

SOS has played Young out of the side.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 11:12 pm 
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GreatEx wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
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If there was ever a match-up where playing Pittonet makes some sense it's to take on Xerri. This week, given McKay and Kemp will be missing, you'd probably be happier to play TDK predominantly forward, so it kinda makes some sense. My concern is that Pitto would have to be underdone, wouldn't he? Perhaps his injury is resolved, but his match fitness couldn't be there yet. I'm guessing they'll go with Young instead.

So I'd go with ...
OUT: McKay, Kemp, Docherty
IN: Young, E.Hollands, Acres


Has to be either Young or Pittonet.
Pitto has been training for a couple weeks and no idea about his fitness, but you're right about match fitness.

I'd prefer Pitto follows Xerri everywhere and plays unsociable footy, like the last time they played and Pitto got under Xerri's skin: I doubt TDK or Young can do that.


Yeah. I want it to be Pitto and Elijah, but in reality Acres will come back and then it'll probably be Young, even though Pitto is the smart choice. I reckon they won't want to "demote" TDK to KPF/ second ruck when they're trying to convince him not to take the 1.7m.


They can sell it preservation.... Didn't xerri tread on tdk's foot and break it a couple of seasons ago?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 11:13 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Did anyone miss Acres?

Who would Acres push out?

I thought Cottrell and Docherty/Hollands were better than Acres has been this year.

Voss may make Acres earn his spot back.

If he was to come back in, I think he'd push out Doc TBH...or one of the 5 small forwards


I doubt voss makes anyone not a kid earn their spot back

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 11:17 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
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yeah i know. if it's up to me, pittonet never plays in our beloved jersey again. but michael seems to love him.

i would like to see tdk permanently forward. saves his body against Xerri, who's an animal.

Tom just got worked over by Bailey Williams. He’ll be saving himself for a Callum Sinclair… or his brother. :lol:

I’d go with Skull, who is up and going, before Pittonet.



here you go bondi, you blabbering baboon.


Good work braithy. My apologies. I knew you could find proof if you had some. That’s a first.

I did get the shock of my life when you mentioned the possibility of Pitto selection.

I’m so use to you making stuff up, you don’t blame me do you?

I’ve had this discussion with cru prior to this. i questioned his definition of ‘up and going 20yo’ vs seasoned ruckman in general, in the pre match weagles thread. Like some people I don’t think he rate the value of ruckmen, as much as I do, but we agree $1M for a ruck who doesn’t kick goals is a bit rich.

As I had said, O’Keefe has been out for a long time before last weeks first game back against a mature ruckman who Is much smaller than Xerri. OKeefe competed but got beaten. To me that selection is a dream and something that will happen when skull gets bigger and better …maybe this year, but skull isn’t in the xeriri league, especially not after being out injured for 2 months with only one vfl game under his belt.

I doubt O’Keefe will even be considered vs Xerri. Cru? Give us your SWOT on the Xerri match up,

I think Pitto is easily the best ruck for Xerri, but prefer Young TBH. More versatile than Pitto in case we need to change KPs forward or defense. Pitto is t a forward. Can’t wait to move past him next year…when Skull passes him. The sooner the better. Maybe that’s what we are all hoping.



haha. holy shit old bean. i don't make stuff up. my memory isn't as good and i don't research. but i don't blatantly make shit up.


pitto has the iq of a witches hat, and moves slower than one. and that's on a very good day. the fact he's 6 weeks off with a calf, he'd be so underdone. i couldn't see him going 50% of gametime, and at that point, lets just bring the kid in.

young is too much of a cat to go with xerri. better off using durdin in the ruck over young. or motlop.


Now your talking braithy. Put durds on motlops shoulders and we have a new ruck combo

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2025 12:59 am 
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Why not bring Moir back and give him a full Game and see what he can offer... He does need some Game time.. He is very low on confidence and looks dejected and not interested. He has talent... we can't waste Yet another one!


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2025 1:58 am 
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Dodo27 wrote:
Why not bring Moir back and give him a full Game and see what he can offer... He does need some Game time.. He is very low on confidence and looks dejected and not interested. He has talent... we can't waste Yet another one!


Because acres offers more of a turnover possibility.....

Binns and moir seem done at Carlton

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2025 7:30 am 
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Dodo27 wrote:
Why not bring Moir back and give him a full Game and see what he can offer... He does need some Game time.. He is very low on confidence and looks dejected and not interested. He has talent... we can't waste Yet another one!


Why would a coach reward a player who doesn't look interested? It's not under 10's.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2025 8:49 am 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Dodo27 wrote:
Why not bring Moir back and give him a full Game and see what he can offer... He does need some Game time.. He is very low on confidence and looks dejected and not interested. He has talent... we can't waste Yet another one!


Why would a coach reward a player who doesn't look interested? It's not under 10's.
Correct he needs to stay in reserves put 5 to 6 games where he has 12 to 15 possession and at least 3 tackles a game before he should be considered for selection.

Durdin first game back in reserves 13 tackles was rewarded and the side benefits with 4 goals

Moir should not have been selected the other week

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2025 10:42 am 
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Crusader wrote:
My thoughts, not that they matter…

We need to get back to a two ruck, two key forward set up. We’re fumbly and inaccurate, but we can move the ball well enough when we control first possession.

Tall targets give away our ball movement, but we’re not quick enough through the middle to gain separation under pressure. We’re not going to out run the opposition, nor run them down.

Pittonet & De Koning would be my first choice combination, by a country mile. But, Pittonet isn’t fit for the task yet. He’ll need a hit out. There’s a lot of the season still to come.

I think the notion that big men need time is shrouded in a veil of cowardice. If words hurt your feelings, then call it analysis paralysis - but it is what it is. Size & the athleticism to carry it does take time. Competitiveness does not. Some blokes look for the biggest dog in the kennel. Others look for their little brothers.

Our two fit rucks are De Koning and O’Keeffe. I think talk of hiding the million dollar man from Xerri is embarrassing for him. Skull can handle himself & I think he offers more to the overall effort than Lemmey would as a key forward.

I get a strong Courtney Johns vibe from Lemmey - in that I was way too excited & now I’m not. He’s improved physically, but a new contract is a fair way off.

SOS has played Young out of the side.


i agree about the mythical theories about all big men need time. time to let skull off the leash, and for tdk. he has the motor and the finesse part of rucking down pat. needs to find the mongrel. a million dollars of mongrel, to be exact.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2025 5:34 pm 
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I presume it will be

Elijah for Kempy
Pitto/Young for Harry. I'd prefer Pitto to crash into Xerri.
Acres for Lord

With Haines playing better, Carroll looking at home and SOS very solid, I wonder if Vossy would throw McGov forward?

Weits/Larkey - Sos/Darling - Haines/Zurhar. The rest of the Roos forwards are that 185cm mark.

If Pitto plays, I guess that allows Vossy to have TDK/Crippa as an option, with Charlie.

Who do the Roos get to pinch hit in the ruck?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2025 5:38 pm 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2025 5:59 pm 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2025 6:00 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
Who do the Roos get to pinch hit in the ruck?

Regards Cazzesman

Darling, Logue & Larkey so far.

Not exactly screaming out for a second ruck so hard that you have to rush one back from a two-month calf strain. No matter how many laps he’s done.

O’Keeffe would be my preference, but I’m pretty confident it’ll be Young or Lemmey.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2025 10:23 am 
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Expect the roof to be closed and a fast track at marvel.

I think Vossy will go like for like Young for Harry rather than Pittonet.
I'd prefer Pittonet to bash and crash into Xerri, but Young can play forward and wax with TDK there.

I would like only 3 small forwards and an extra midfielder/ wing (either Camporeale), hence Docherty over Motlop for midfield ability.

B: Haynes Weitering Carroll
HB: Saad Silvagni Hollands
C: Cottrell Cripps Acres
F: TDK Hewett Cerra
HF: Walsh Curnow Hollands
F: Williams Young Durdin

IC: McGovern L. Camporeale Docherty White
S: Motlop

Boyd is an enigma, and I'd prefer Boyd over Gov. Boyd's inclusion also allows us to push Hollands back to his righful position wing. Wouldn't mind Cotts/ Hollands and Lucas waxing the wings...and minimise clangers we get from Acres.

But, after Govs last game (despite his opponent having 3 shots at goal, 5 score involvements, 15 disposals, on a day the ball was in their forwardline only 40% GT), I can't see him missing, but dont expect the same game again from Gov. Teams get harder to play than the Eagles from now on. Hope Gov just keeps improving. His kicking, if given time, is deadly. Time is the key. Gov's ability to go forward also allows us to keep the defensive key posts in tact.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2025 12:19 pm 
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Forward: 1. Lemmey, 2(eq). O’Keeffe, Young
Ruck: 1. O’Keeffe, 2. Young, 3. Lemmey

Forward/Ruck: 1. O’Keeffe, 2(eq) Young, Lemmey

If they go with Young, Silvagni will be forward at some point. Either after it’s gone to shit, or just before he gets injured in a ruck contest.

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Crusader wrote:
Forward: 1. Lemmey, 2(eq). O’Keeffe, Young
Ruck: 1. O’Keeffe, 2. Young, 3. Lemmey

Forward/Ruck: 1. O’Keeffe, 2(eq) Young, Lemmey

If they go with Young, Silvagni will be forward at some point. Either after it’s gone to shit, or just before he gets injured in a ruck contest.


sad isnt it


maybe gov goes fwd

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2025 4:57 pm 
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Probably won't occur, but I wouldn't mind Voss throwing Lemmey a free pass to see how he goes in the big league.
He has been working with Harry over the preseason, and supposedly with better delivery and structure, he might surprise.
Selections will be very interesting this week.


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Cheer leaders out in force.

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