bondiblue wrote:
Pros
Happy with 4 points
We found out we are dysfunctional when TDK was off
Have doubts we would’ve won without TDK. Starred.
Motlop arrived. Loved his intensity
Loved the pace of Saad Cincotta Cottrell
Harry is the best CHF in the game
Charlie keeps kicking goals
Weitering held backline together
Carrolls best game for Carlton. Confident.
Pressure in the 3rd. Team effort.
Hewett is one of our best 3 mids
Cripps was BOG
Cons
Lack of pressure for long periods
Durdin ahead of Young. Too slow for AFL.
Charlie’s lack of effort to compete for every ball
TDK going off injured showed how importants a ruck role is
Losing a ruck Rob’s us of a CHF or our most important mid
Short backline exposed. Kemp or Marchy wouldn’t fill that gap
Handballing to players in worse positions
Cripps trying to do too much
If you can’t see the problem with one ruck when sole ruck is injured for the game you never will, so don’t think for a minute I don’t admire TDK cos I do, but I can’t depend on an opposition coach to not aim to hurt TDK to win the game in Finals.
Ridiculous to think I’d gloat about a loss Great Ex, like I said in match thread I pointed out for you that all 5 commentators all agreed we are vulnerable if TDK is out injured when sole ruck, so you don’t have to hear the logic from me. That was unecessary.
I’m happy for TDK to be No 1 ruck and Pitto sub as insurance. I can see how we play when he’s hot and firing as sole ruck. I also know how our structure is ruined if TDK as our sole ruck is off the ground injured for most if not remainder of the game. We all agree we were lucky he returned to the field and played 2nd half because we all felt our vulnerability when he was off. Let’s see if he plays as the sole ruck next week. He is human. His Purple patch was just that imo. If you thought his purple patch was going to last forever at his young age you would buy fools gold for gold too.
Harry went into ruck and his opponent Comden went to forwardline and kicked 3 goals. It was pointed out before he kicked a goal our backline couldn’t match their height ie mismatch. Weitering was on his own. Durdin was not a reliable second fiddle.
Was it not obvious when TDK went off that North ran away from us on the scoreboard? If not, you weren’t watching. Go watch the replay and listen to commentators. They weren’t BT Brayshaw or Richo. Or better still check the scoreboard ticking over for North. Too obvious to miss.
We miss the stature of jones as a KPD. Gov and Kemp are not KPDs as much as you want to believe they are.
We have to wait for Finals to see if Voss goes with 2 rucks or not. I don’t know. But I can see why he would. Can you?
All I have said all along is we play well with sole ruck but if we lose that ruck during the game we are vulnerable and haven’t got the KPDs to withstand the onslaught to come. See against bottom 2 team today. Repeat 17th on the ladder and you think a top 4 wouldn’t do better than them in the same situation?
Pitto as Sub doesn’t fly. injury to any other player than main ruck (say TDK when he’s back) and you have to bring on Pitto for a mid/forward/defender off. that’s hopeless. also doesn’t work as a tactical sub for more speed, more lockdown, more forward power or anything else.
i’m horses for course on one or two rucks for every game. treat the oppo on their merits at the MC selection table.
one player we must identify before trade period is a tall defender, a bit more mobile but taller the Gov and stronger than Kemp to do the second KPD role. if that player can double as a backup/dual ruckman then bonus salary should be on offer.
i agree with @Bondi that taking Harry away from his important CHF role just to wear him out in the ruck for big chunks of the game is problematic with the TDK/Harry combo.
Harry says he enjoys getting on the ball but unless he’s getting monstered by two defenders and not getting his marks then we are wasting one of our best assets forward in the ruck. it also means both their key tall defenders go to Charlie and that will frustrate him at times if the game isn’t on our terms which often it has not been lately.
if we could share Ruck duties three ways with a new key defender who can ruck, Crippa and H in the forward arc then that wouldn’t be so bad as having him do centre sq and D50 rucking.
who are some KPDs out of contract who can pinch hit in the ruck? Lobb? There’d be a few.
i wonder what kind of a CHB TDK would have made in 2024 if we’d gone after Grundy or Tim English like i thought we might at the end of 2023?
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