Braithy wrote:
jim wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
Posted this in the VFL thread...
I'd bring in S Durdin to replace Marchbank, Binns to replace Ollie, and Cuningham to replace Williams.
Carroll and Lord don't give anything more than Kennedy, Cera or Hewitt.
Motlop or Hewitt could replace TDK or Pitto if we go that way.
Martin not ready for AFL yet, give him one more game at least in the VFL
Hewitt deserves to be in the AFL team, but not sure who he replaces. Kennedy and Cripps are playing ok, Cera is out of form but he plays more outside and gives more run than Hewitt does, so not like for like. Cotrell/Ollie could be replaced, but Hewitt can't run that far or fast either. He's not a replacement for Williams either.
Yes, S.Durdin or Young, who played well too. Young has been good in the VFL and might be time to try him again. Plus, he gives ruck back up if we play one ruck. Motlop, Hewett, Young, Cunningham, Binns in. Out Marchbank, Pitto, Cottrell and Ollie, plus Williams, who is injured.
ollie shouldn't get dropped. the amount of ground he covers (mostly defensively) is a big void to fill. that diving tackle/ smother on bont for a certain goal. that act alone showed more desperation than anyone else yday. i didn't see his numbers, but i'd guess he ran over 16km and ran the furtherest on the ground.
i dont think coaching staff are asking him to get in and win the ball, but be defensive first mindset and tackle and run and don't stop. so, when it comes to raw numbers, maybe we shouldn't judge ollie on output?
plus in a team of plodders,
he's one of our faster players out there, espesh in pursuit. he seems to opften mow down other players who thought they were clear
I think he does need to be judged on his numbers, as a team we have let our team defensive work as a whole slip and because we have players in positions that are supposed to have an offensive side but are not, we are even more likely to lose.
Most are only praising Ollie for his defensive work, running totals (not meters gained) and the most useless individual stat, pressure points.
All while dismissing his role is 2 parts as a wing, his role needs to be both defensive and offensive.
And although he runs all day, a lot of the times he is ineffective due to his size, speed and skill (but still racks up the PP's).
Don't get me wrong, he does some nice things but most of the time he requires other players to come in and help, especially going forward.
At least Acres has a bigger frame and can win his own ball and not require other players to help him out in his role.
Ideally (not that we can), Ollie needs to go back to the 2's and bulk up, build on his speed, skills and awareness and do more work in the forward half of the ground.
Telstra Tracker Dogs game:
L.Bramble 16.1k
E.Hollands 15.3k
M.Cottrell 15k
B.Acres 14.8k
L.McNeil 14.4k
As an FYI both Ward and Callaghan didn't make the top 5 in the GWS game for km's (Ollie 2nd & Acres 5th) and they only had 26 (14&12) pressure 'acts' between them to Ollies 23 and Acres 18 but they killed us on the wing.
Funnily enough the more important stat for a wing of meters gained we were annihilated, Callaghan 449m, Ward 436m to Acres 339, Ollie 143m.
As for the highlighted part about Ollie being quick.........that is a hard no.
Most of the time he is closing when a player is slowing down their last couple of steps before hitting their targets with no conceived pressure.
Suggesting he should be replaced is valid IMO, the only issue is we don't have anyone better until Cottrell gets back in form or if they move his brother to the wing at the expense of a half forward spot.
Raz and Martin might need to be available for that to even be a possibility.
All the above is why losing Doc has had such a massive affect on Ollies game IMO, he's still not able to hold down such an import spot on his own yet.
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