I'm not sold on Voss either.

But Collingwood nailing coaching appointments 'every time', really? How long have you been following AFL/VFL? They've won 2 flags in 60+ years

Yup….

it was going to be tough…then Mcglove and
Pitto just tipped the cart…!

don’t know if we would’ve won…but it would’ve
been a better game…!

they WERE a tad Harlem Globetrotter’y in the
first…plus felt we reeeeally had to earn a free kick
tonight…!

but yeah…they were too good…!


kindest regards tommi

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Predictably weak performance. Absolutely belted in that first quarter. It’s almost unbelievable that we’d let that happen after last years performance against Adelaide but then you remember this is 21st century Carlton. Still haven’t won at AO. Reality check after barely beating shit teams over the past two weeks. We’re a mile off contending this year unfortunately.

Saad hammy. Another big loss

what are you talking about?

Leading up to the game, we can always count on the perennially entitled Carlton fans to come out of the woodwork and moan about unfair media treatment.

Here's the thing, though - until our team can pull their fingers out of each other's arses and actually put in a full season of grit and determination, we're going to keep getting laughed at by wankers like Kingy. We're like the gang that can't shoot straight out there, and it's time we face the music (yet again).

We didn't get the rub of the green. Why? Because we all have innate, unconscious biases that favour the bold and successful. Couple that with a sport that has evolving and interpretative rules and it's a cluster flower for perpetual losers.

Let's stop pretending we're about to embark on a string of wins we've not seen in a generation, and start addressing the root of the problem - the custard between the ears.

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Agreed. Our tackling was so, so bad today. Gave away more free kicks for slipping down the opponent's waist and grabbing an ankle than we won for an effective tackle.

Those bottom six players aren't a problem, every club has 6 players that level or worse, but due to our terrible fitness levels that you mention, they have to play way more often than any other club's bottom 6 (except WCE I suppose)

I was always concerned as going to Adelaide on there home deck for the start of Gather Round was asking for trouble. The momentum and energy was all their way. Losing Docherty & McGovern hurt badly.

However, it also highlighted some major issues that we have escaped so far this seaoson

1. Our ball movement especially inside 50 is pathetic
2. Our forward structure and postioning is poor
3. Our skills in general are of a low standard
4. We lack genuine depth
5. We are slow through the middle
6. Too many players don't work through the hurt and for 4 quarters. Too many passengers

What happened to the exciting run we had last year? Have we gone too defensive?

This is only a few. The coaches have a lot to work on and it is imperative for our culture that we bounce back hard next week

Apparently he got coaches votes last week so all was forgiven...back to his old habits tonight

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I have never said this before but

Plowman
JSOS
Fisher
Honey
Ed Curnow

will never be part of a very good side. You "Might" get away with one in your side but not 2-3 of them. Sides target them and pick you apart

5 more losses until Doc is back !!

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Glad someone said it. We're nowhere near done yet. The stars really didn't align for us this week.

I'm thoroughly sick of years and years of disaster and mediocrity but this lapse isn't worth using as a yardstick for drawing a line through the thing we stick a fork into.

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I hate to say this to a Brownlow Medallist, but Cripps is a big part of the problem. He is great when he has the ball. He is not so great when he doesn't. Oppositions with quick midfields just run off him. We need to inject pace into the side. That is why Dow should be included in the mix. Have Cripps for a half a quarter in the midfield and then Dow for the rest of the quarter to burn them off. Walsh and Cerra are ok. Kennedy, Hewitt, E. Curnow and Cripps are too slow.

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Either give me what you’re on or justify this statement.

7. Movement! Our boys don’t move to create options. Most notable from kick-ins and when we are kicking i50.
It looks a bit like we’re trying to think too much - a bit like the later Bolton era.


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So predictable in hindsight

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or when he does mark it he is turning it over by foot this year. A number of times last week and again last night.

Carlton didn't exactly have their best 22 out there.

Last season when Carlton beat Adelaide in Melbourne the players who had an impact were:

Docherty - 30 possessions
Carroll - 18 possessions / 3 clearances (4th highest clearance count in the team)
O'Brien - 17 possessions.

If you had those players in this match you give your team a chance.

Plus, yesterday our midfield brigade were coming back/or carrying injury - Kennedy, Walsh, Hewett.

If you had access to Docherty & McGovern plus selected Carroll and O'Brien in that team, omit Honey, Plowman & either ??? you give your team a chance.

We have been less than average since round 10 last year.
Slow ball movement.
Like last year lose the contest when it’s in close and we are gone
Nothing has changed from last year.
Voss needs to throw the magnets around and see what the team can conjure up.
You look at Adelaide and how they moved the ball.
Every defender except Butts and Murray run through the lines
Hinge and Smith are brilliant kicks
Milera, Jones and Sholl all good kicks who run out of defence
Badly missed Doc and dare I say McGovern who once again showed his legs can’t hold up to regular AFL footy
This was coming.
Hewett is clearly injured
Cripps just travelling
Kennedy injury interrupted
That’s the game
Cerra tried to lift the side but he is a fourth string mid. Give up a first and third rounder and in the long run your depth will be tested
Acres was one of the few to hold his head up but he too is your average solid citizen type player

What the Crows have mainly done is trust their recruiting staff to pick kids
Rankine and Dawson are from other clubs
Dawson has been a huge pick up
Great leader as well
Voss needs to start playing guys in different positions
Inject some ball movement
Play Binns Carroll Kemp
He needs to find out what this list can do
That won’t happen if it’s the status quo
Nothing to lose

Pitto was after the debacle and McG is always injured and totally unreliable