Agree. We won pretty much every stat in the book, except for Inside 50 efficiency. Basically we got stuck into the lazy habit of bombing it in and expecting Charlie and Harry to do the rest and then didn't have enough impact from the small forwards at ground level. Also when we did actually have guys open inside 50, we botched a lot of the chances with simple skill errors.

Hard to say we didn't deserve to win though.

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I'm glass half full, Hawks hit the lead at ten minute mark of the last. Many would have expected us to fold and lose by 5 goals.

Instead we found a way.

Doc
Weiters
Jack

All did what they had to.

Fisher
LOB
Setters

Let us down far too often.

Charlie needs to compete at ground level. Williams needs to stop fearing contact. Although he and Newman had their moments.



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We’ve shown we can all lay good footy but need to control game better when we aren’t moving it quickly. It will come. Big changes to game plan take time. Impressive thing is we are winning and have lots of improvement to come.

My only comment is I think we are too tall up forward. It’s fine when we are getting it in quickly but McKay TDK Curnow Jack is too much. They were also spoiling each other a lot. Like to see another small up there to create more pressure and hold it in.

Always take the win Mick but could have done much more
Had them at our mercy and let them
Off the hook
Good sides would have steamrollered over us easily
Tempo footy stuff stuck in our backline and stodgy ball movement gave it to the Hawks

Should have mentioned that Kennedy was pretty good again

Saad and McGovern and Oscar out from the week before so half the backline replaced to play today

Early days but we are 4 or 5 players off being a top 4 team
Ruck will be an issue against quality ruckman
We lack pace around the ground
Same blokes are too soft
A win is better than a loss
Weitering saved the day
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Don’t get me wrong, I loved the fight in the last 5 minutes. In reality we played 1/4 and a bit of footy. We won’t win too many games doing that.
I thought we were lazy, but maybe we were just cooked.
We did have a 9 day break though, so I’m wondering.

I’m sure Voss will review hard.

The other glaring one for me, TDK, for all his weapons, really needs to get some intensity after the first effort. I reckon I saw at least three times where he tried for the first contest but once outside his sphere of influence he was notably walking/not involved.

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The way Motlop has played today he must be close to getting a game. He’s what we need

Just came to post this. 4 goals from 17 touches and 4 tackles to go with it. I like all of Owies, Durdin, and Fisher, and they're all probably doing just enough to keep their place in the team, but collectively we're not getting enough at ground level in our forward 50. We need a bit more spark. Motlop looks like the type of player who can turn a game and kick a bag, as is Jack Martin

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We most definitely deserved to win... we won most of the stats including 18 more inside 50's

To Hawthorn's credit they identified why they found themselves 6 goals down and dropped some numbers back.

We needed to find another option to goal and put the game to bed... maybe Martin?

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Martin should have played. Almost felt like a bit arrogant to not play him. We're not good enough to leave out players of his ability. And if he wasn't 100% he shouldn't have been sub, he could have been on in the first 5 mins

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We found a way when it looked lost. Hawthorn had ask the momentum, yet we found a way to win and hold on.

Some worrying things. The fumbling. The amount of time we fumbled was shocking.
The bombing in long ad nauseum. Jiath and Sicily had field day. Really played into their hands.
A number of players down on previous weeks. Cerra, Kennedy a bit down. Boyd out of his depth. Fisher average game. LOB average. Setterfield average. Charlie and Harry limited impact after a massive start.

Despite all that we won when am looked lost thanks to some brilliant individual efforts. Doc and Weiters brilliant. Harry huge contested mark on the wing. Jack kept trying all day and kicked important goals. Hewett was huge. Cripps willed himself into the contest in the last.

We found a way to win. We're 3-0 and 3rd on the ladder and it's good to discuss a 'bad' win

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Just home from the game.

I'll admit, on the trip home I wasn't sure whether to be happy for the win, or disappointed that we lost it for a while there and let be become so close.

But in the end, I cheered pretty loudly at the one point win, in front of an energised crowd, and we're 3-0, so I'll cheer the win!

Honestly, when Hawthorn hit the lead I thought we were toast, and credit to Jack, Walsh, Curnow for getting us up in the end, and not folding.

Yes, the team went wobbly for a while, and even Cripps had some absolute shockers in the second half. But I'm confident Voss will make this one a "teachable moment" for a lot of players. So if we get the 4 points *and* learn something from it, win-win. (But yes, if this turns out to be the start of another year of "down hill skiers", not so good... time will tell.)

Using a cricket term, you dont draw it in the book!

3rd on the ladder baby

Go Blues

All I wanted at the start of the season is a side that is competitive week in week out. Games where we win some and lose some, but are always in the contest. So any year I'd take 3 wins from 3 starts. Sometimes you win games where you probably shouldn't of, today was one of those games. Lots to like and as many areas of improvement. Great game of football to watch. Let's move on to next week and the Suns up north, with steady heads.

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After the shit we have endured over the last 20 yrs, I’ll take any win no matter how ugly. 3-0 better than 0-3 .

That was me although I said we'd lose by 4 goals at that point.

That’s exactly how I feel. Twenty years of football PTSD makes it hard to relax when your opponent has momentum and is coming. We could have lost all 3, but we’ve won all 3. That’s got to speak volumes more than luck

That first quarter was flawless. Smashed them in and under, one touch precision football with not a single fumble, and inside 50 marking and kicking that was out of this world. Breathtaking. Hawks lifted intensity, blocked the corridor, played their zones well, and rebounded brilliantly.

Last quarter heroes. Silvagni for the clutch goal, Doc for defensive zoning and marking under pressure, Harry for that big pack mark on the wing, and especially Weiters for that crunch chest mark running back into traffic. Just magnificent.

Jiath was best on ground for mine. I thought he created virtually every goal for hawthorn after qtr time and we played right into his hands.

Hawthorn really took on the 45 kick through the corridor and it paid dividends. We played over and around our midfield after quarter time, we thought that 6 f50 marks in a quarter was how it was going to be. Needed more avenues to goal than the big guys.

That said...

What intent. The lethargic starts are gone (replaced by lethargic 3rd quarters!!) and that first quarter was pure domination and beautiful to watch.

I like what we're building, and we've won three games in 3 different ways now. Underpinning each though has been the heart and fight that we have lacked for years.

Loved it.

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Pros:

1st half.
The big boys. Charlie and Harry were terrific. Weiters best game for the year. SOJ was influential. Young impressed me.
Centre clearances. Cripps and Hewett again.
Docherty.
Durdin.
Liked Setterfield's 1st half.

Cons:

Faded again.
Butchered the ball going forward after quarter time.
Too many broken tackles.
There's a lot of rebound against us, when we're playing Harry, Charlie, TDK and SOJ in the same forwardline. I like that we're getting games into TDK, but reckon we would have been far better balanced with Martin down there instead.